jpd80 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 See, we also don't know what conditions were put on the delivery of Ranger either but you can bet that one of the key stipulations from Fields would have been to have costs as low as possible and to spend money only where absolutely necessary. Does that ring true with the Ford we know and love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I think your overstating what the actual customer will actually do when researching this vehicle. I don’t think people are going to turn their noses up because it’s a seven year refresh of an existing vehicle. A very small percentage might, but it won’t effect sales all that much. Exactly. I bet 80%+ of potential buyers don’t even know there is a ROW Ranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Exactly. I bet 80%+ of potential buyers dont even know there is a ROW Ranger. They didn't know there was a commodore or monaro either. Dated is dated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I think you guys are starting to be way too negative, when you see the truck in the flesh, I think you'll find that a lot of people will love it. I know that Ford is starting off production slowly but that could be due to concentrating on those more expensive crew cab sales - that's the niche Ford wants just below F150, it will look good / different to F150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 They didn't know there was a commodore or monaro either. Dated is dated. The current ROW Ranger is nothing like the commodore/monaro rebadge jobs. Those were hideous from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplorerDude Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I think the new Ranger will do extremely well. I think it will easily go to the top of the sales charts once they hit dealers in large enough numbers. It should surpass the Colorado fairly easily but I'm not sure it can topple the Tacoma. Tacoma did over 190,000 units in 2016. I hear that Ford hopes to do somewhere between 130,000 - 150,000 Rangers a year in the US. I guess time will tell how much pent up demand there is for Ranger and how many would-be F150 sales will end up as actual Ranger sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I hear that Ford hopes to do somewhere between 130,000 - 150,000 Rangers a year in the US. 125k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Seeing those taillights reminds me of the first time I saw Lincoln LS taillights...or Oldsmobile Alero taillights. Comically big. Though I'm sure it will grow on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Not that the GM twins represent any sort of benchmark but the styling of the NA Chevy Colorado is different from the same model year Holden Colorado. And the Canyon looks like neither of those. And a Tacoma is not the same truck as a Hi-Lux. Just say'n. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 So we hate the new Ranger because 1) it has big taillights, 2) It looks too much like the ROW Ranger. How many of you have actually driven the truck? At times this forum borders on the absurd. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 They look ridiculously large for that sized vehicle. And the side shot with that grey wheel well trim on the front fender looks hideous. Ive never understood why they made the lights so large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) Because this Is inspired by that but it needed a clear reversing light segment for some markets... Edited January 1, 2018 by jpd80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) So what are the engine displacement issues in other countries? Doesn't Thailand, for example, tax vehicles based on engine size?Many countries do. That was the reason that Ford dropped the 1.6L in favor of the 1.5L and the reason there is a 1.0L EcoBoost. Here is the interesting part ... the truck will be powered by a 2.0-liter turbocharged diesel. That's smaller than the Ranger's 3.2-liter inline-five diesel, but it should deliver more power.A version of that new engine WILL be coming to the US ! Edited January 2, 2018 by theoldwizard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 "Winter testing" HA ! That looks like just down the street (Enterprise Drive, Allen Park) from the Truck Engine Engineering building. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 "Winter testing" HA ! That looks like just down the street (Enterprise Drive, Allen Park) from the Truck Engine Engineering building. . Well Wiz, the first headline "Ranger XLT spied driving around Allen Park" got rejected....lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Here are some good shots showing the rear disc brakes, axle housing, leaf springs, staggered rear shocks, frame rails, etc. https://www.motor1.com/news/183013/ford-ranger-spied-close-personal/ Edited January 2, 2018 by blksn8k2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Bridgestone Duelers?? is the Firestone boycott over?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 I hope that is just an optical illusion (bad pic) but the wear pattern on the right front doesn't look very even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Not that the GM twins represent any sort of benchmark but the styling of the NA Chevy Colorado is different from the same model year Holden Colorado. And the Canyon looks like neither of those. And a Tacoma is not the same truck as a Hi-Lux. Just say'n. The Isuzu based ROW Colorado was deemed too cheap and required substantial revision to bring it up to US market standards where consumer expectations for trucks are much higher than other markets. The Hilux/Tacoma split is a legacy problem due to decisions made a decade ago. They are basically the same size now and no reason to think they won't be re-united on a common platform later on. Existing Ranger is already leaps and bounds better than ROW Corolado and the MCE is not unlike what GM did to the ROW Colorado to bring it up to US market standards - new drivetrains and interior. Except Ford is doing it for the entire world, not just US market. Edited January 2, 2018 by bzcat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Those are supposed to be of the new US Ranger? That isn't anywhere near a new truck; it looks about like a truck does after spending 3-5 years in the rust belt. That is obviously an 8.8 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevensecondsuv Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 It actually looks very similar to the old Ranger. Are we sure someone didn't post pics of a 2011 Ranger and then somebody else got them confused with new Ranger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Here is the interesting part A version of that new engine WILL be coming to the US ! Shut your mouth! Now all you have to say is it will go into the Ranger for sure. :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 I don't think that is an 8.8. It has too many cover bolts. An 8.8 has a single bolt at the bottom center and 10 bolts total while this one has two bolts along the bottom edge and most likely 12 bolts total. Probably the same Dana housing that has been used in the T6 for a few years now. If you click on the link you can see more pics of the whole truck. I didn't post any of those since they are the same as all the other camo'd T6 pics we have been seeing for over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 As for the "rust" underneath, here's a quote from the article: We also get a good look at the full frame, and we can’t help but notice the amount of dirt and mud on pretty much everything. It seems Ford is definitely putting the new Ranger through the ringer when it comes to off-road excursions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Interesting, they've changed from drop-in center in PX2 to integral carrier diff...must be cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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