akirby Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 https://www.stsuvexperience.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 46 minutes ago, akirby said: I like it and think it would do ok. But something would have to get compromised to do it and Ford apparently doesn’t think it’s worth it. I gotta believe Ford knows what they’re doing and have it all planned out nicely. I hated when they killed the fusion and focus and was questioning the company yet sedans don’t even sell like they used to so I guess Ford was right. Too bad Evos likely will never see the light of day here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 4 hours ago, rmc523 said: The regular Fiesta and Focus are definitely appliance cars. The ST models aren't. Not sure why that can't apply to Edge too. Is it applicable to Explorer as well? A regular non ST Fiesta or Focus with manual transmission evokes more passion from the driver than Edge ST or Explorer ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, akirby said: https://www.stsuvexperience.com Good thing that Ford Performance Racing School still offers HPDE instruction using a vehicle suited for true driving enthusiasts, namely Mustang GT 6-speed manual with FR3 kit. I did a similar 1 day school in Utah a few years ago called "Octane ST Academy" that used Fiesta ST and Focus ST. Experience was awesome. 1-Day School – Ford Performance Racing School Edited September 16, 2021 by rperez817 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stromberg2 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I would love to see both the Puma and Evos for what it's worth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 52 minutes ago, stromberg2 said: I would love to see both the Puma and Evos for what it's worth. From a consumer standpoint, sure. But what consumers want isn’t always the best business decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, rperez817 said: A regular non ST Fiesta or Focus with manual transmission evokes more passion from the driver than Edge ST or Explorer ST. 1 hour ago, rperez817 said: Good thing that Ford Performance Racing School still offers HPDE instruction using a vehicle suited for true driving enthusiasts, namely Mustang GT 6-speed manual with FR3 kit. I did a similar 1 day school in Utah a few years ago called "Octane ST Academy" that used Fiesta ST and Focus ST. Experience was awesome. 1-Day School – Ford Performance Racing School Since you ignored my request to knock it off and continued your trolling behavior, you’ve just won a 30 day vacation. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stromberg2 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I know, but Damn, they are really beautifully styled. Always been a Focus SVT guy so I love the unique and bold style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saleen182 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Love my Edge....sad to see it going away. Didn't need another 3 row...have the CX-9 for that. And Ford Dealer wasn't willing to deal as much on an Explorer vs. the Edge. Took almost $9K off sticker on Edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, Saleen182 said: Took almost $9K off sticker on Edge. And that my friends is the root of the problem. You can’t make money with those kinds of incentives unless it’s a F150. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saleen182 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, akirby said: And that my friends is the root of the problem. You can’t make money with those kinds of incentives unless it’s a F150. Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 4 hours ago, akirby said: And that my friends is the root of the problem. You can’t make money with those kinds of incentives unless it’s a F150. I mean, it also doesn't help that if it were on a regular redesign schedule, it would've been new for '21. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, rmc523 said: I mean, it also doesn't help that if it were on a regular redesign schedule, it would've been new for '21. Thats true, although it did get a refresh in 2019 and some interior updates last year. But I think it’s had those big rebates even when it was relatively new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, akirby said: Thats true, although it did get a refresh in 2019 and some interior updates last year. But I think it’s had those big rebates even when it was relatively new. Rebates are hard as that is the way Ford sells things equipment wise a 41K Edge is the same as a 38K Passport/Murano. But buyers were "getting a deal" because there was a $3000-$4000 rebate where the Passport or Murano would have $1000 rebate. Also ATP are figured before rebates so Ford can keep those high ATP prices wall street likes. I also don't understand the hate for the Edge, it is a solid vehicle in a lot of aspects. Everyone I know that owns them loves them for the size they are and how they drive; 150K miles is no problem for them. The biggest complaints are just that the A-Pilar is huge and outside mirrors are to small.. I think they look really good in darker colors with the ST-Line/ST. Edited September 16, 2021 by jasonj80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, jasonj80 said: I also don't understand the hate for the Edge, it is a solid vehicle in a lot of aspects. Everyone I know that owns them loves them for the size they are and how they drive; 150K miles is no problem for them. The biggest complaints are just that the A-Pilar is huge and outside mirrors are to small.. I think they look really good in darker colors with the ST-Line/ST. I know a few over 300K. It’s really the perfect size. If Ford wasn’t diverting resources to BEVs I think we’d already have a C2 edge with hybrid options. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saleen182 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 15 hours ago, jasonj80 said: I also don't understand the hate for the Edge, it is a solid vehicle in a lot of aspects. Everyone I know that owns them loves them for the size they are and how they drive; 150K miles is no problem for them. The biggest complaints are just that the A-Pilar is huge and outside mirrors are to small.. I think they look really good in darker colors with the ST-Line/ST. Don't get it either. My Dark Grey Titanium looks pretty damn sweet...has everything on it & runs great. Rear has more room than my CX-9 with the back seat down! I was looking for an F-150 XLT, but it was $10K more (after rebates) than my $46K Edge that I got for for $36.5K. Couldn't justify the extra cost, since I didn't really need a pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 18 hours ago, akirby said: I know a few over 300K. It’s really the perfect size. If Ford wasn’t diverting resources to BEVs I think we’d already have a C2 edge with hybrid options. I'm assuming those edges have the 3.5 duratec? My explorer has that engine, I've heard it's incredibly durable aside from some water pump issues that plagued earlier model years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 52 minutes ago, DeluxeStang said: I'm assuming those edges have the 3.5 duratec? My explorer has that engine, I've heard it's incredibly durable aside from some water pump issues that plagued earlier model years. Yes and yes. Both of the ones I know about made it to 300 K on the original water pump. One just had it replaced. That’s one reason they discontinued it for 2019. Regular coolant changes seem to help a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 2:20 PM, twintornados said: Quite the left handed compliment... Backhanded FIFY - A concerned "Southpaw" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 7:24 AM, rperez817 said: Ford Edge is not a vehicle that evokes any sort of passion. In ST or Sport form, it's quick but still boring. Nope, the wheel package and even considering the top heaviness inherent in Crossovers, it's as excellent as a Fusion Sport with better seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 15 hours ago, Hugh said: Backhanded FIFY - A concerned "Southpaw" Southpaw here too...born when my full blooded Italian grandmother saw and said, "sign of the devil, force him to use his right hand"...thankfully, Mom didn't listen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerSooner Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 11:59 AM, akirby said: You’re comparing to the old Escape not the new one. It’s bigger. You're right from a numbers comparison, but I have to disagree from the broader perspective. I have had 2003, 2017 and 2020 Escapes. I've also had 2008, 2013, and 2017 Edges. And, while the 2020 Escape is notably more spacious in the backseat than the 2017, the 2017 Edge (no different from the 2021 Edge) had definite advantages in luggage space, front seat size, overall cabin volume, and perceived value (relative to the Escape). Ford either needs to step up the Escape Titanium's game significantly or reconsider the niche space it's abandoning. And, seriously, until the Mach-E offers repeatable, reliable 400 mile range it's just a toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I’ve owned a 2008 Edge and currently own a 2014 escape and a 2016 MKX. I sat in a Corsair and the Corsair felt much roomier than the 2014 escape and close enough to the edge/MKX that I would consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) Does the edge still have the same IP as the fusion did back in MY 2013? The one with the 2” screens on each side of the speedo? Edited September 27, 2021 by T-dubz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, T-dubz said: Does the edge still have the same IP as the fusion did back in MY 2013? The one with the 2” screens on each side of the speedo? The Edge got an update a couple of years ago, they gave it the Chinese IP/ interior as China moved to a new one Edited September 27, 2021 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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