Jim Farley Says Ford Can Deal With Trump Policy Shakeups

[Rick73]

12 hours ago, akirby said:

So without reciprocal tariffs what leverage do we have to get other countries to give us a more fair trade agreement?  Without leverage there is no negotiating.  And tariffs hit them in their pocketbooks which is most effective.

 

The other countries won’t let it go that far.  They’ve already asked to negotiate and promised concessions.  The only one that is in any danger of a prolonged battle is China and that’s a completely separate and far more complicated issue.

 

 

Bloomberg reports China raised tariffs and won’t go higher because they think it’s already a numbers “joke” in that there will essentially be no trade anyway so why bother making them even higher?  As I suggested it’s effectively an embargo for all practical purposes and they know it.  China is indeed a complicated issue that started at least 40 years ago IIRC and it’s not getting solved overnight.

[jpd80]

Edit, never mind.

 

As an Aussie, I shouldn’t get too upset because we have free trade agreements with most countries.

Navarro has a bee in his bonnet about two things Australia does:

1. excludes US beef - we grow enough of our own and export heaps.

2. our pharmaceutical benefits system allows us to seek out and buy cheaper generics that are subsidised  to people with serious conditions.

Life saving medications are made affordable for sufferers but

Peter Navarro says he doesn’t like that

 

Edited April 11 by jpd80

[Oac98]

2 hours ago, jpd80 said:

I understand what the government is trying to do but the whole thing has been poorly executed and even if America now walks back every tariff imposed by the Whitehouse, America is now a country that does this sort of thing.

 

Its all coming from Peter Navarro, he’s convinced the president and others that the US can replace taxation with tariffs which means basically a consumption tax on the things you buy that are imports.

 

The tariff on China now mean it’s effectively an embargo on those goods, are people going to pay those massive tariffs until replacement products come from friendly countries or made in USA?

There will need to be negotiation because change can’t and won’t happen overnight.

 

Australia is pissed, you guys have a surplus with us and yet we get a 10% tariff?

Theres now calls to cancel the AUKUS submarine deal in retaliation, I hope that doesn’t happen. Point is you don’t treat allies in such a shitty way.

 

Agreed.

[jpd80]

14 minutes ago, Oac98 said:

Agreed.

Thoughts to Canadian friends, Maybe that  CANZUK alliance comes back into play…

Worked for ASEAN countries.

 

 

[jpd80]

 

[Oac98]

16 minutes ago, jpd80 said:

Thoughts to Canadian friends, Maybe that  CANZUK alliance comes back into play…

Worked for ASEAN countries.

 

 

Interesting video. Honestly, it’s going to be interesting to see how trade will be after the smoke clears. It’s possible that some trading relationships will change because of all the recent tariff rubbish.

[Biker16]

On 4/10/2025 at 3:35 PM, Deanh said:

China also apparently constructs a Coal plant every 2-3 weeks...renewables may just be to appease the clean air and Climate nazis...

China Allows New Coal Plants, but With More Limited Role

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China will allow the construction of new coal power plants through at least 2027 but with restrictions aimed at limiting emissions and boosting renewables, according to a newly released action plan.

The plan clears the way to build new plants where needed to shore up the supply of power or to balance solar and wind, Bloomberg reports. To that end, new coal plants must be able to ramp up and ramp down quickly. The plan also directs new plants to burn coal more efficiently than the existing fleet, and it will require some new power stations to run less than 20 percent of the time. 

 

[jpd80]

As of late 2024, China has resumed construction of up to 97 GW of coal fired power supply, so they are not in any hurry to switch to greater amount of renewables 

[rmc523]

13 hours ago, jpd80 said:

As of late 2024, China has resumed construction of up to 97 GW of coal fired power supply, so they are not in any hurry to switch to greater amount of renewables 

 

But we're supposed to handicap ourselves to preserve the environment...

[Deanh]

4 hours ago, rmc523 said:

 

But we're supposed to handicap ourselves to preserve the environment...

China plays by ONLY their own rules, and apparently we were sending them $ under the Paris Accord as they are listed as a 3rd world country

[rmc523]

2 hours ago, Deanh said:

China plays by ONLY their own rules, and apparently we were sending them $ under the Paris Accord as they are listed as a 3rd world country

 

Ridiculous.....if anything that should count toward paying down the debt.

Edited April 17 by rmc523

[jpd80]

1 hour ago, rmc523 said:

 

Ridiculous.....if anything that should count toward paying down the debt.

It’s a little more complex than that, China also contributes to the funding as well

but you guys won’t get much push back from me when the world’s biggest

polluting country get a virtual pass because cheap Labor and offshoring

by global corporation all of Europe and USA’s previous noxious industries.

China gets all that value adding dollars yet continues along the path of dirty power…the build up in BEVindustry is their store front window dressing.

Edited April 17 by jpd80

[rmc523]

15 hours ago, jpd80 said:

It’s a little more complex than that, China also contributes to the funding as well

but you guys won’t get much push back from me when the world’s biggest

polluting country get a virtual pass because cheap Labor and offshoring

by global corporation all of Europe and USA’s previous noxious industries.

China gets all that value adding dollars yet continues along the path of dirty power…the build up in BEVindustry is their store front window dressing.

 

Oh I know it's more complicated than that.  Just saying.....

 

They definitely shouldn't be considered a "3rd world country" at this point.

[ANTAUS]

 Third world is defined as...  " one that is economically underdeveloped, often characterized by high poverty rates, economic instability, and limited access to basic necessities like healthcare and education"

[Deanh]

18 hours ago, jpd80 said:

It’s a little more complex than that, China also contributes to the funding as well

but you guys won’t get much push back from me when the world’s biggest

polluting country get a virtual pass because cheap Labor and offshoring

by global corporation all of Europe and USA’s previous noxious industries.

China gets all that value adding dollars yet continues along the path of dirty power…the build up in BEVindustry is their store front window dressing.

ADD IN ZERO REGULATION........regulations everyone else abides by are ignored.....

[Bob Rosadini]

On 4/11/2025 at 5:18 PM, jpd80 said:

Edit, never mind.

 

As an Aussie, I shouldn’t get too upset because we have free trade agreements with most countries.

Navarro has a bee in his bonnet about two things Australia does:

1. excludes US beef - we grow enough of our own and export heaps.

2. our pharmaceutical benefits system allows us to seek out and buy cheaper generics that are subsidised  to people with serious conditions.

Life saving medications are made affordable for sufferers but

Peter Navarro says he doesn’t like that

 

Peter Navarro is a Harvard grad.  By definition that means he has no common sense..part of the curriculum in the Ivy League🤔

[twintornados]

23 minutes ago, Bob Rosadini said:

Peter Navarro is a Harvard grad.  By definition that means he has no common sense..part of the curriculum in the Ivy League🤔

 

Peter Navarro is a dope.

[Rick73]

5 minutes ago, twintornados said:

 

Peter Navarro is a dope.

“Dumber than a sack of bricks”?  😀

 

Whoever thought the entire planet would cow down in fear without pushing back hard doesn’t understand humanity, or different cultures at all.

[jpd80]

 I’m sorry for calling him out, I’m just worried about the consequences for ordinary people.

 

[Bob Rosadini]

4 hours ago, twintornados said:

 

Peter Navarro is a dope.

But he keeps kissing Trump's ass.

 

4 hours ago, Rick73 said:

“Dumber than a sack of bricks”?  😀

 

Whoever thought the entire planet would cow down in fear without pushing back hard doesn’t understand humanity, or different cultures at all.

That was Musk's term for him..he also called him "Peter Retardo".  

[Rick73]

13 minutes ago, Bob Rosadini said:

But he keeps kissing Trump's ass.

 

That was Musk's term for him..he also called him "Peter Retardo".  

Musk is not the only Republican that has disagreed with Navarro, or his extreme and confrontational approach on tariffs.  Musk has just been more open and vocal about it. Fortunately, IMO, there have been many really smart and experienced people working hard to keep the wheels from coming off the US economy thus far.  My concern is that even if cooler heads prevail long term, some of the damage done already will not be reversible; at least for a very long time.