Sherminator98 Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 https://fordauthority.com/2024/12/jim-farley-says-ford-can-deal-with-trump-policy-shakeups/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 If Trump is smart, he'll leave our current policies in place. But that's a big IF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 Most of what he says is posturing or negotiating and doesn’t mean it will happen. He’ll use those threats to get something else, I agree with dumping the tax credit, it’s no longer needed. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, akirby said: Most of what he says is posturing or negotiating and doesn’t mean it will happen. He’ll use those threats to get something else, I agree with dumping the tax credit, it’s no longer needed. Correct, he’s not yet inaugurated and he has countries reacting to threats of Tariffs. Once we get over the rhetoric, the true question will start, what is it that you really want us to do, what moves the needle for you without resorting to tariffs? I smiled when Canada and Mexico threatened to impose tariffs of their own, so they want to charge their own people 25% more for buying American products? I don’t think so, that would be political suicide for those leaders and parties. Agree with dumping tax credits, it’s obscene to throw up to $12,000 at large high $$$ BEVs those are being bought by people who can use a tax credit to reduce their Income tax. Someone on $40k per year can neither afford these vehicles nor fully use the tax credit but that’s a whole other thread….. Edited December 14, 2024 by jpd80 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 Seriously, what do they expect Farley to say, as if he has a choice? I mean, would he ever say, no Ford Can’t Deal With Trump Policy Shakeups so our plan is to sit on our hands and watch stock plummet for 4 years? Since no CEO would say that even if true, it makes these types of reports useless, or worse laughable in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted December 15, 2024 Author Share Posted December 15, 2024 37 minutes ago, Rick73 said: Seriously, what do they expect Farley to say, as if he has a choice? I mean, would he ever say, no Ford Can’t Deal With Trump Policy Shakeups so our plan is to sit on our hands and watch stock plummet for 4 years? Since no CEO would say that even if true, it makes these types of reports useless, or worse laughable in my opinion. Well in the grand scheme of things they are far better off then say GM when it comes to hybrids or Dodge/Ram/Jeep. The biggest issue is just getting them into more products that don't have a P/HEV setup in them. Ford overall is in decent shape with powertrains till the end of the decade between EV and ICE powertrains. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 On 12/14/2024 at 6:33 PM, jpd80 said: I don’t think so, that would be political suicide for those leaders and parties. I know nothing about Mexican politics but I’m fairly sure the D-bag up north doesn’t GAF about what the people think. Hell, there’s been plenty of discontent within the populace for years now and he still got reelected somehow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 3 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I know nothing about Mexican politics but I’m fairly sure the D-bag up north doesn’t GAF about what the people think. Hell, there’s been plenty of discontent within the populace for years now and he still got reelected somehow. He’s got more balls than a bearing factory….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 14 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I know nothing about Mexican politics but I’m fairly sure the D-bag up north doesn’t GAF about what the people think. Hell, there’s been plenty of discontent within the populace for years now and he still got reelected somehow. Trudeau will resign soon and I say GOOD RIDDANCE! Canadians may be seen as nice and polite but we’re pissed right off at that moron! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Oac98 said: Trudeau will resign soon and I say GOOD RIDDANCE! Canadians may be seen as nice and polite but we’re pissed right off at that moron! Well, make something happen already! My God, he routinely infringes on your freedoms, making it hard to understand. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oac98 Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 1 hour ago, tbone said: Well, make something happen already! My God, he routinely infringes on your freedoms, making it hard to understand. The media is reporting that he is considering resigning we shall see if there’s any truth to that. This guy fucked up the country real bad. Then you got the a Donald walking all over him, I hate them both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 Well looks like the tariffs are happening next month https://www.axios.com/2025/03/27/trump-auto-tariffs-vehicles-cars-trucks-suvs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) Ha!! My Maverick is built and already over the border!!! Delivery date to dealer is next week and as of two days ago, she was on a train car near Topeka Kansas... Edited March 27 by twintornados 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearheadGrrrl Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Auto industry is already in an affordability crisis with new car loans over $1K, and now Trump dumps this on them! Ford and GM will be hurt worse than the Asian makers as even in full size pickups almost all are assembled or have powertrains from Mexico or Canada. $100K for a Super duty and $60K for a fleet trim pickup is going to be a hard sell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I understand short term tariffs as a negotiation tactic. I understand wanting to encourage more auto manufacturing in the U.S. and leveling the playing field with foreign brands being subsidized by their government. But an across the board chicken tax on everything is just stupid and allows US mfrs to increase prices 20% and still undercut the imports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, GearheadGrrrl said: Auto industry is already in an affordability crisis with new car loans over $1K, and now Trump dumps this on them! Ford and GM will be hurt worse than the Asian makers as even in full size pickups almost all are assembled or have powertrains from Mexico or Canada. $100K for a Super duty and $60K for a fleet trim pickup is going to be a hard sell! Ford is actually better off than most manufacturers. https://www.ttnews.com/articles/carmakers-pain-trump-tariffs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, GearheadGrrrl said: Auto industry is already in an affordability crisis with new car loans over $1K, and now Trump dumps this on them! Ford and GM will be hurt worse than the Asian makers as even in full size pickups almost all are assembled or have powertrains from Mexico or Canada. $100K for a Super duty and $60K for a fleet trim pickup is going to be a hard sell! What happens to affordable models like the compact Maverick for example? Will it end up costing as much as an equivalent trim Ranger. Edited March 27 by AM222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, AM222 said: What happens to affordable models like the compact Maverick for example? Will it end up costing as much as an equivalent trim Ranger. No because they’ll raise Ranger prices too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM222 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, akirby said: No because they’ll raise Ranger prices too. Wouldn't that put the Ranger at a disadvantage against other US-made pickups like the Colorado or Frontier for example if Ford raises prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 13 minutes ago, akirby said: No because they’ll raise Ranger prices too. Ranger sales have somewhat tanked due to several factors...one body style is one, and starting MSRP of $37k...that said, Mavericks starting MSRP is $27k before D and D...thats up 7k from where they started....unreal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, akirby said: I understand short term tariffs as a negotiation tactic. I understand wanting to encourage more auto manufacturing in the U.S. and leveling the playing field with foreign brands being subsidized by their government. But an across the board chicken tax on everything is just stupid and allows US mfrs to increase prices 20% and still undercut the imports. This is why I was critical of Trump awhile back as someone who voted for him. This is really gonna hurt a lot of people, companies and consumers alike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I'll believe 25% across the board tariffs when I see it. Maybe for a short period of time but I'm skeptical of it being a permanent thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, AM222 said: Wouldn't that put the Ranger at a disadvantage against other US-made pickups like the Colorado or Frontier for example if Ford raises prices. I would expect all brands to raise their prices in respo se but who really knows what will happen. I agree this seems unlikely to be sustained. But I’m going to start shopping in stock vehicles just to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, DeluxeStang said: This is why I was critical of Trump awhile back as someone who voted for him. This is really gonna hurt a lot of people, companies and consumers alike. Which is not something he would normally do except as a short term threat just to prove he could do it hoping to spur more investment in US production. He knows exactly what this will do to American companies in the interim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 3 hours ago, akirby said: I understand short term tariffs as a negotiation tactic. I understand wanting to encourage more auto manufacturing in the U.S. and leveling the playing field with foreign brands being subsidized by their government. But an across the board chicken tax on everything is just stupid and allows US mfrs to increase prices 20% and still undercut the imports. Agree tariffs do not make much sense, which makes me wonder what’s really going on behind the scenes. The fact that Tesla may benefit relative to other manufacturers is at least enough to raise questions. Below from CNBC report, though this too could be biased to pump up Tesla stock. “Put simply: "Tesla wins, Detroit bleeds," wrote Bernstein analyst Daniel Roeska in a Thursday note to clients. Roeska called Tesla the "clear structural winner" of the policy, adding that it has a localized market share and is "better insulated" from trade risk. On the other hand, he said Ford and General Motors could see declines of up to 30% in earnings before interest and taxes this year. "For everyone else, this is a margin reset and real drag on near-term earnings power," he said of companies besides Tesla.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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