That may be, but on December 19, 2025, their website said 400hp.  I got a copy of our window sticker on January 06, 2026.   They were still claiming 400hp on their website as of February 10, 2026.  Their current Build and Price says 400hp.   It is unclear to me what our power rating is, but I believed it was 400hp at the time of purchase based on the info I had available to me at that time.    

and thats bit them in the ass post Covid....look what happened to bronco Raptors and Expeditions for example...the higher the MSRP the smaller the market. I agree, Ford sat back and watched the addendums and looked in the mirror thinking they werent charging enough for their cars....now the market has basically returned to normality and the higher MSRPs killed sales...so they dropped them 10 -12k. Heck the Darkhorse is overpriced...to the extent theres a 3k rebate on a supposed limited edition.... the SC may be different as its likely the supply will be severely constrained...but $170k???? and regardless...there will STILL be ADMs....( and sincerely, there will probably be less than 8k markup in the car...THATS part of the reason Dealers put addendums on them ) I dont condone ADMs but I fully understand why some Dealers utilize them...

It was kind of implied that the two row Utility market had become commodity vehicles which is sad because in the past, Ford was more than capable of supplying vehicles that could compete and make money. The 10% return edict was introduced to cut vehicles  that made no financial sense to Ford but would previously support dealer sales and service centres with ongoing work.  

I thought I saw somewhere that this was emissions related?

I picked this nice nugget up from my ST Facebook page and figured it was appropriate for this page. The 2026 Explorer ST has been detuned to 385hp. This was unbeknownst to me at the time of our purchase.  I could not find any reference to this prior to purchase and many web sites are still referencing 400hp. The 2025 model is still referencing 400hp on the Ford website.  I find it problematic unless they started this spec after ours was produced.    

I’ve bought four Raptors and a BRaptor and never paid over MSRP.  I know others that have done the same, so it isn’t really that bold of a claim. Some dealers like repeat customers and don’t screw everyone.  

It closer in size to the Transit Custom than the Transit Connect

https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g70640014/2027-ram-promaster-city-revealed-gallery/   @Biker16 here is that smaller van you wanted...