Yea, but meeting CAFE is gettin' harder and harder. Next year the CAFE target for a car with the footprint of a Mustang coupe will be more than 50 mpg. Ford needs to sell more Mach-E and also introduce electric versions of Mustang coupe. Not just for CAFE, but to keep up with competition    

Why did you skip 2024? The price went up to $42,860 that year.  Using the CPI calculator from November 22 to November 24, the 2023 price works out to $42,166.62.   Once again EVERYTHING has gotten more expensive over the past couple years and the past 4 years or so have been the worst for inflation that I can remember in my lifetime.    The base price for a Mustang GT is still under the Average cost of a new car, so IMO that makes it "affordable" though for the vast majority of people it is not very practical and they'd rather spend that same $45K on a say an Explorer or something. 

It’s  good that Ford is at least trying to cultivate more Ecoboost sales, they hit a brick wall in export markets as most foreign buyers prefer V8, mostly because of the elevated prices charged.   The people interested in an EB drift oriented audience are completely different customers. In any regard, the more EBs sold, the better it is for meeting CAFE.

When they say they want to compete with Porsche, I believe they mean in terms of how Porsche has structured their lineup, Ford wants to mirror that. You got the s650, that's the 911, things like the GTD are Ford's GT3 RS, if they do a mustang raptor, it'll be like the off-road safari 911. The mach-e is the cayenne, you got the sedan, maybe they do something under the s650 and that's like Fords cayman.    I personally believe the Corvette is more of a mustang rival than the 911, but I get why Ford makes the Porsche comparison. 

I personally thought it was a good looking vehicle. Probably a combination of cash issues and lower than expected EV demand.

I agree with you that the price is still a contributing factor. Even in 2023, the base price was still $39740.  Now the price is $45,460, which I’m not even sure includes destination. That was only a little over a year ago.  Very few people’s income is keeping up with that type of inflation and that amount will be noticeable on a payment. IMO, either Ford is intentionally trying to keep the sales numbers low for CAFE reasons, or they’ve just gotten carried away with the pricing.     I don’t mind if they make a new Mustang variant that falls under the namesake, but they need to keep the current model and add a more affordable high-performance model along the lines of the C8. The GTD isn’t even in the realm of affordable and therefore not particularly interesting to me.   

You would think huh?  But no, they can't afford to "engineer" it in or as I've been previously told the Godzilla creates too much underhood heat and they can't figure out how to handle that issue- an obvious BS excuse.   And 7m, plenty of 650/750's in inventory in central Mass.  One dealer has 15!   as an aside, I did a Google earth of OAP the other day.  completed yard is full of trucks....interesting either white, yellow (Penske?) or can't tell from aerial but either black or "Buster Brown".

Thinking of the new 2025 orders for customers that have not had the fun of waiting . There are a lot of great people that can guide and answer the questions for the new be"s... You all have been a great help to me over the last 3 years. Thank all.  I hope to report good news on my 3 plus year adventure on a F450 KR.

Not entirely. When VW added the flower vase with a rose to the retro beetle’s dashboard it became dead to men but women went gaga over it. It was a brilliant marketing move if the goal was to sell only to women.

This is so odd as Stellantis was saying last week that this car was coming soon and Chrysler had a bright future.   My guess is that maybe they sent the car to a test group like Ford did with the "bullet train car" and it isn't go over well. Or the other possibility is that the cash position of Stellantis is falling faster than expected.