Yes, it was inevitable that the absence of hybrids would hit GM hard. And also ironic that GM produced the Volt (an EREV) long before the EREV concept moved to center stage.
I think Mary is talking about removing the fly cut between the cylinders and having more room between the cylinders. The L8T is at .335” with the 7.3 at .307” . At ford, this probably forced them to a seimezed design with no coolant between the cylinders.
At 105.15 mm bore for a 7 liter Godzilla, the distance between cylinders would be .3877” which would allow water around the entire cylinders and make rebuilding the engine a couple of times possible.
Like all designs, compromises are made to make it to market within a given development period.
Also Ford might be hedging their ecoboost bet in F150 given the upcoming new GM V8 engines at 5.7, 6.6 and 6.7 liters.
edselford
Farley is not wrong about Fusion and Focus had to die to make way for Bronco and Maverick - that was the "how" question. But that doesn't answer the "why" question.
Why is Ford the only car company that needed to kill a product to fund another?
Why is Ford not able to build on existing model/resources and update a product like other car companies?
etc.
Ford also killed Edge to fund the GE development which ended in no product and a big write off.
And we see the same thing repeating now... How is Ford funding UEV development? Kill Escape... But why?
True, but some of this stuff is based on accurate information that leaks out!
I just have a feeling that the original Godzilla phase1 prototypes were actually at 7 liters but the torque objectives could not be met with port injection and the need to avoid pre ignition (C.R.)
As Mary has pointed out, the program was done on the cheap with little development and refinement time.
I say the above because a smaller bore would be greatly helped with the angled valves of the current cylinder heads of the 7.3
I don’t think a 4.22” bore would need that!
When in trouble, there is no replacement for displacement at least for torque!
Does anyone know Brian Wolfe?
This is a fun discussion
edselford
Every mfr does this to some extent. Budgets are pretty much a zero sum game - to add over here requires cuts elsewhere. It may not be as obvious as killing a high volume model but it's happening. GM and Toyota have always been volume driven. More models, more brands, more factory space, more employees. This gives them more flexibility to shift things around but at the expense of higher fixed overhead. Ford is much more conservative with less fixed overhead and lower volume.
But these are work trucks that are mostly stock anyway. I don't understand the issue.
Previously you guys whined about not having a cheap pushrod v8 like GM. Now it's too flimsy.
I don't think Wolfe was the guy. In the video series Revin' Evan did on the Godzilla some years ago Wolfe talked about the Godzilla design and it didn't sound like he had much to do with it. Wolfe has indeed done a lot of performance work on the Godzilla since though.
Thanks for the link,
looks like production is still restricted for now
“According to The Blue Oval's December sales report, Ford F-150 production at the Dearborn Truck plant totaled 24,416 units last month - 14,636 or around 150 percent more than November's total of 9,780 units. At the Kansas City Assembly plant, Ford F-150 production actually decreased by 4,357 units or nearly 39 percent month-over-month, from 11,289 units to 6,932, however. Total F-150 output still increased from 30,308 units in November to 31,348 in December, which is a difference of 1,040 units, or 3.4 percent.”