You know, it wasn't all that long ago that you were a proponent of higher ATP's, at the expense of volume.   Retirement must be good for you.  HRG

That was a good video about U-Haul.  Very interesting perspective.

As it should be.  Totally different demographic and competition.

(Not disagreeing with you, more disagreeing with Sherm) I’m skeptical that the CE1 Escape and the MME will actually be that similar. If it is what was under that tarp, it will be a lot more squared off and muscular like a Dodge Charger (or more directly, the skunk truck) rather than smooth and sporty looking like the MME. 

So you're ignoring the insider telling you otherwise.  Got it.   The difference in CE1 escape and new MME is size, cost and volume.  Makes no sense to skip a smaller cheaper higher volume escape to do a bigger, higher cost mustang ev that would sell half as much or even less.  The whole point of ce1 was smaller and cheaper.

So basically we'll be getting the cd6 edge replacement that was started then stopped, but with Mustang styling and performance.  Edge ST was very popular.  

No I was   I'm looking at it like this: A CE1 MME would be nothing more then CE1 Escape with a new tophat and improved performance, much how the current one is a C1 turned into an EV   A Mustang Crossover on CD6 or S650 or any other platform is going to require a significant amount of engineering, more so then the CE1, because ICE variants are just about going to require a V8 in them in some shape or form to keep the Mustang faithful from bringing out the pitch forks, nor can I see Ford making the Explorer look like a Mustang either. Its possible, but I'm also not sure its not worth selling say a 100K Mustang crossovers on CD6 either. I'm not completely sold on that whole possible boondoggle-I can see a sedan but not a crossover. 

I guess they will just leave the Lincoln sign alone at both plants then although no Lincoln products are there 

Would also be nice if Ford made a kit available to convert the CCS plug to NACS for previous models....dealer installed of course. 

If the refresh ain’t happenin’ for MY27, will Ford at least add a native NACS port for  MME that model year?