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Will Ford's first hybrid midsize PU come from TTP?
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By Sherminator98 · Posted
Well it seems like the are spending a decent amount of money completely reengineering the passenger compartment for the sedan, so I'd assume they'd look at adding some sort of AWD setup. -
By Sherminator98 · Posted
Escape=The affordable Utility? Or UEV one? Seems like we aren't getting any additional UEV products for a while, if that is the case? The Bronco Sport I'm assuming will be related to the EU Bronco coming out soon I'm kinda shocked its going to take Ford another 3-4 years to do the EREV F-series...I thought that would be like late 2028 or early 2029 because of the Lightning dying off. -
Ok thanks, i didn't know it was that much. I was somewhat iffy on how it worked and for 900 its likely not worth it.
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Nope not for $900, I just use my bed camera. Plus I've heard some people get sea sick
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By ExplorerDude · Posted
MAP to be all derivatives and body styles of Bronco, including the BP. TTP is an additional T6 plant. There is no BP Pro to my knowledge. But the confusion might the additional affordable T6 pickup from TTP which is to be more traditional. -
This jives with what @ExplorerDudetold us.
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The VW American pickup will probably be a badge engineered Scout Terra as a sop to VW dealers who are suing the automaker. VW is claiming that Scout Motors is a "startup" so they can sell them outside the dealer network like Tesla.
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Here is the news on VW Amarok: https://www.gearpatrol.com/cars/volkswagen-mulls-midsize-pickup-fighter-in-america/ Basically, VWoA is having a total rethink on what it means to a relevant car company in the US and it means selling a pickup truck. Hyundai-Kia is preparing to enter the midsize truck market. Stellantis is working on a new Dakota to supplement Gladiator. Mitsubishi is under Nissan ownership and will be getting a rebadged Frontier as well. Mazda and Subaru are the only one left but they are functionally just brands under the Toyota group. So if VW doesn't respond, it will be the only mainstream auto company group that doesn't sell midsize pickup trucks in the US. On its own, VW can't make the math work but with Ford, it can offer Amarok in the US if Ford has the capacity... which it will when the second T6 plant comes online. Just rough math here... Michigan can build 250~300K T6 and let say Tennessee can start with 150K and ramp up to 250~300K as well. Last year Ford sold 150K Bronco and 70K Ranger in the US so total 220K but Ranger was probably held back to make sure there is enough Bronco volume. We got to add another 15K each for Bronco and Ranger exports to Canada, Mexico, Middle East etc. Lincoln SUV probably can sell 30K without a blink. Everest can chip in another 75K (4Runner is selling at 100K annual clip without any competition...). Now the fun part... if Ford had two T6 lines, it can probably drastically increase Bronco exports - let's pencil in 20K more exports, and scale up Ranger domestic sales - let's push that 70K to 100K. Plus let say 50K VW Amarok. So to recap: Bronco 150K US sales Bronco 35K Non-US exports Ranger 100K US sales Ranger 35K Canada/Mexico Everest 75K US/Canada/Mexico Lincoln 30K Worldwide Amarok 50K US/Canada only Total 475K And circling back on the Ford Pro van... I'm starting to think maybe it will be Transit City? Seems like a much cheaper replacement for eTransit. Total speculation on my part of course but check the specs - it uses LFP battery supplied by CATL... which Ford is ramping up to build with CATL in Michigan mainly for UEV in Louisville but could easily also supply the battery for this van in Ohio. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JMC_E-Fushun Edit: saw the discussion on Mach 4 being RWD or AWD... S650 is not provisioned for AWD so my guess is RWD-only is right. Ford is doing this to prolong the S650 life and avoid the difficult decision of moving Mustang to a new platform and shutting down Flat Rock. Doesn't seem like they want to spend massive amount of money to totally reengineer the aging platform. Although in theory, it's not impossible to do... Ford has the 10 speed auto that is already designed for AWD. Just a matter of investments.
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Technically speculation, but informed speculation based on various pieces of info and also logic of it not making sense to give a Bronco truck its own factory. I just don’t know if there’s enough of a market for something like that on its own.
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