Mazdas are great vehicles. They are my first stop if I can’t find what I want at ford. I had a mazda3 back when they were owned by Ford and never had an issue. A lot has changed since then, but their vehicles are still nice looking, and interiors seem upmarket compared to others. My only complaint has been their infotainment. All their vehicles always have such small screens and no digital IPs. That seems to be changing with the new cx5.

I don't think so. They are getting killed by the Chinese; they don't have tariffs to protect them from the Chinese, they have to change, or they will die.  

I get what you are saying, but back then, there was a 2-row CUV for people who needed more space. Without the Edge and Escape, Customers have to choose between a Smaller back seat and no hybrid option. and a much larger vehicle. When you can go to every other automaker to get the vehicle you actually want.

Chinese automaker BYD overtakes Ford in global auto sales for the first time    

Love to know how much of quality issues are build quality versus supplier quality issues….

This makes me laugh. You get a bonus for making a vehicle that doesn’t break after 3 months. Might as well just give a bonus for showing up to work. If this is the bar ford sets, no wonder the quality is so terrible. How about we measure quality after the 3 and 5 year warranties end?

The old Highlander was pretty bad, so I guess this is an improvement, but I still don’t like it. It’s about as generic as you can get. I wouldn’t know this was a Toyota if you didn’t tell me. I really hope ford keeps its design as far away as possible from this plain Jane front end. Interior is nice though.

Besides adult passengers, families may have child car seats to consider.  As an example, my wife's 2024 Edge, which has 40.6" of rear-seat legroom, does not have enough room to allow me to drive with the car seat behind me in a rear-facing position, as needed for an infant.  With a narrow garage, having the car seat on the passenger side means the other vehicle is at risk of getting a door dent,,,,   HRG

Well, let's hope they keep it up.     Then again, dropping products and pushing out product cycles theoretically makes it easier to improve quality lol.

Well, they changed that fast.  Here's the gist of it:   Detroit – Ford Motor CEO Jim Farley told employees in a town hall on Wednesday that companywide bonuses would be set to 130%, according to four people familiar with the matter, as the automaker delivered on its goal to improve vehicle quality.  Farley told attendees that the higher payouts are mainly due to the automaker's improved initial vehicle quality, which measures repairs in the first 90 days of ownership. Farley said the metric is the best it has been in a decade, two of the people said.  Companywide bonuses at Ford are based on a set of metrics it establishes each year. These define the baseline amount for which all salaried workers are eligible, with a figure of above 100% denoting that the company exceeded those metrics. Individual performance can increase or decrease that amount. The bonuses apply to Ford's global salaried workforce, which includes approximately 75,000 workers.