So they were about to put it out, they sent it back to redesign, and now have cancelled it again?
The writing may be on the wall for Chrysler at this point.
I wouldn't expect anything anytime soon-it all depends on how the EV market grows and how the CE1 is accepted in the market.
The CE1 might be a great product, but at the same time I have my doubts that it is actually as flexible as people are assuming it is.
If I was wagering a bet on an EV Mustang Coupe, I'd say we are at least 5 years out. But at the same time it all depends on what Ford is going to do with the Mach E going forward-does it get moved to the CE1 platform anytime soon? There are rumors of other variants of the Mach E but Ford has basically gone radio silent on pretty much any future plans outside of the CE1 and T3 EV projects, which going by some rumors I've seen (like the CE1 being a pickup and not a CUV or sedan) makes me wonder if people are conflating rumors together, but IMO it would make just about zero sense to have two EV Pickups similar in size to one another to compete with more or less the same buyer, if the CE1 is going to be a tweener between the Ranger and Maverick and the T3 being F-150 sized. The only thing that might make sense is labeling the smaller pickup as part of the Bronco lineup, which would help with the separation of the market.
I'm hoping Ford still puts out guidance like they said they where after cancelling the 3 row EVs, which is supposed to happen early this year.
Yea, but meeting CAFE is gettin' harder and harder. Next year the CAFE target for a car with the footprint of a Mustang coupe will be more than 50 mpg. Ford needs to sell more Mach-E and also introduce electric versions of Mustang coupe. Not just for CAFE, but to keep up with competition
Why did you skip 2024? The price went up to $42,860 that year.
Using the CPI calculator from November 22 to November 24, the 2023 price works out to $42,166.62.
Once again EVERYTHING has gotten more expensive over the past couple years and the past 4 years or so have been the worst for inflation that I can remember in my lifetime.
The base price for a Mustang GT is still under the Average cost of a new car, so IMO that makes it "affordable" though for the vast majority of people it is not very practical and they'd rather spend that same $45K on a say an Explorer or something.
It’s good that Ford is at least trying to cultivate more Ecoboost sales,
they hit a brick wall in export markets as most foreign buyers prefer V8,
mostly because of the elevated prices charged.
The people interested in an EB drift oriented audience are completely different customers. In any regard, the more EBs sold, the better it is for meeting CAFE.
When they say they want to compete with Porsche, I believe they mean in terms of how Porsche has structured their lineup, Ford wants to mirror that. You got the s650, that's the 911, things like the GTD are Ford's GT3 RS, if they do a mustang raptor, it'll be like the off-road safari 911. The mach-e is the cayenne, you got the sedan, maybe they do something under the s650 and that's like Fords cayman.
I personally believe the Corvette is more of a mustang rival than the 911, but I get why Ford makes the Porsche comparison.
I agree with you that the price is still a contributing factor. Even in 2023, the base price was still $39740. Now the price is $45,460, which I’m not even sure includes destination. That was only a little over a year ago. Very few people’s income is keeping up with that type of inflation and that amount will be noticeable on a payment. IMO, either Ford is intentionally trying to keep the sales numbers low for CAFE reasons, or they’ve just gotten carried away with the pricing.
I don’t mind if they make a new Mustang variant that falls under the namesake, but they need to keep the current model and add a more affordable high-performance model along the lines of the C8. The GTD isn’t even in the realm of affordable and therefore not particularly interesting to me.
You would think huh? But no, they can't afford to "engineer" it in or as I've been previously told the Godzilla creates too much underhood heat and they can't figure out how to handle that issue- an obvious BS excuse.
And 7m, plenty of 650/750's in inventory in central Mass. One dealer has 15!
as an aside, I did a Google earth of OAP the other day. completed yard is full of trucks....interesting either white, yellow (Penske?) or can't tell from aerial but either black or "Buster Brown".