Big 10-4. Repair costs are driving insurance premiums ever higher. Composite light fixtures, radar, sonar, etc. The premium on our 2025 Explorer runs close to $1,900 a year w/$500 deductible, multi car and home ins. and both of us have perfect driving records.  I'm way beyond the target age group for marketing, but are Milennials really driving the demand for Blue Cruise et al? I turn most of that stuff off, as I find it gets in the way of actually driving. I don't need a $1,000 mirror winking at me telling le it's not safe to pass; I can turn my head around and look.

Yep, 4.5L V6.  Thank goodness that thing never made it to the F150 like the original plan.  That would have been a disaster!

Given what has been going on the past couple of years i've been hearing antidotally speaking from friends and family, I think it is people just can't afford things like they once did. 

yeah wasn't that engine the really bad powerstroke from the era with 2 or 4 less cylinders? 

I think part of the issue is maybe car companies think people want to buy something that looks different because its an EV? When they actually want something that is similar to an ICE product design wise? I know the old frying pan Prius was styled like that to draw attention to it. I'm not a fan of Telsa's minimalistic way of styling...its very generic and reminds me of Ikea furniture.     The Mach E and Hyundai/Kia EV products are good examples of EV styling that doesn't stray too far from ICE products. The lack of the need for a grill can make EV's look like someone who has their eyebrows shaved off. But to put a "fake" or something stylistically similar to a grill can fix that and not screw up aero on them.     

Changing soft items like headlights or bumpers is a lot cheaper then making new stampings or having to retest crash cells if there is a major change to the passenger compartment. 

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Evolution rather than revolution but the key point being the platform must be on the right path to begin with.

Not meaning to disparage the 3-row BEV, Ford was trying to offer a  nicer looking than Tesla X competitor, the market was expecting more like an Explorer/Aviator like 3-row BEV…was the Rivian a missed opportunity?

No, I think he's talking about the class 3-4 LCF that had a tiny Mazda cab and an engine I would rather not talk about.