Jump to content

Leaderboard

Popular Content

Showing content with the highest reputation on 03/18/2021 in all areas

  1. Sorry for the clickbait title but that is the actual title of the article from Detroit Free Press. The article is actually a compilation of several interviews with Mach E owners, most of them in California. Spoiler alert: everyone loves their Mach E ? https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2021/03/09/2021-ford-mustang-mach-e-reviews-owners/4636946001/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot This guys probably lurks here ? He's got the entire Ford line up in his garage and two of them are stick shift. He even has an EcoSport. That's a serious commitment to the blue oval... I like Ford but I would never buy an EcoSport.
    4 points
  2. I think the reality here is that both Ford and Jeep know their entry level products are more about image than ability. Don't get me wrong, the Compass, Cherokee and BS, even in their lower models with less off road worthiness, have more capability than 95% ~ of their buyers will use. The more off road versions would probably be at 98%~. If you need more, off road ability there is a Wrangler or Bronco for that. The numbers don't support over engineering a part that is currently sufficient for all but 2% of the buyers. It's smart to have the electronics intervene and prevent damage. It's a much better idea than having it overheat and then it's toast. Think about this, how many people are going to hoon their Bronco Sport for 15 minutes straight in the sand full throttle? 15 minutes is a long time in that context. Where this hurts the most is image/marketing. The appeal of the Bronco Sport and how it's being marketed is that is can go anywhere (reasonable) and that gives people the "I have it if I need it" mentality. Now as stated above, most customers won't have any issue. However, the more the press brings it up the more of the image of the BS takes a hit, even though it's really a non issue.
    3 points
  3. It's being kept tight-lipped, but I assume it's a Lincoln electric whitespace vehicle. It began as a China product but I believe the scope has since expanded. It's being engineered in Dearborn with some talent they very recently picked off from, um, elsewhere.
    3 points
  4. Couldn’t agree more! I have watched several reviews of the BS on YouTube where the vehicle was used as designed (I think @akirby linked a great vid in one of these threads). I was impressed with how the BS made some “difficult” situations seem effortless when the correct drive mode was engaged. Education is key, read the manual.
    2 points
  5. Exactly. It comes across as harsh at times but he's not talking out of his ass, he clearly has some knowledge about what he's saying. I really don't believe he's being unfair.
    2 points
  6. I don't find Savage Geese and his team to be haughty at all. He is more knowledgeable about automotive engineering than most other amateur automotive reviewers. His reviews are very objective and he doesn't recite stuff from automakers' marketing materials in his reviews. Very refreshing. I wouldn't be surprised if Savage Geese has an engineering or related degree. Ford branded vehicles in the U.S. market are well known for cheap looking, cheap feeling interior materials and design (except for high end F-Series, Expedition, and Mustang Mach-E). For Ford sheeple like me, it's just something we accept. But for a general audience, Savage Geese is justified in pointing this out.
    2 points
  7. Like engines, it sure seems prudent to build your own electric motors and batteries in house if you plan on building millions of hybrids and all electric vehicles. More importantly, it will keep your union force happy and content.
    2 points
  8. A lot of people. Marketers at Ford, Honda, and Toyota specifically tout an "active lifestyle" or "outdoorsy" image in their promotions of those vehicles.
    2 points
  9. That is something Tesla is really good at.
    2 points
  10. Yes sir, but "any other CUV" are less capable off road than this Bronco.
    2 points
  11. Marketing people who promote these crossovers as having that "capability" are being dishonest and misleading customers, as CKNSLS mentioned in another thread.
    2 points
  12. But it is still a crab apple to honey crisp comparison. The ‘18 F150 added vastly more equipment and changes. New 10 speed auto, updated Coyote, updated 2.7 ecoboost, new grill and facias. 3.5EB and 10 speed came a little early as they were in the ‘17. The 8sp auto wasn’t ready yet and the styling changes were so subtle you really had to look. The fusion styling has aged well and still looks good. But it needed some new wiz bang features to keep people interested. Fseries delivers on that time and time again.
    2 points
  13. I wonder what will happen to the battery plant in GA. If Ford does follow VW’s lead, that will surely put the plant in jeopardy. Either that or Hyundai /Kia will need to dramatically increase production. Sure seemed like LG was counting on picking up a bunch of business out of the ruling against SK. With that quickly evaporating, it might put additional pressure on the two of them to settle. If Ford needs to find a new supplier, no reason to go with LG...they did throw the wrench in Ford’s plan after all.
    2 points
  14. Yes sir FR739, I agree with you there is a difference. The difference is in degree not in concept though. Both examples involve misleading information and dishonesty as CKNSLS mentioned. This is why the automotive industry is regulated heavily. Consumers and government officials very correctly don't trust the industry to police itself.
    2 points
  15. It's the front wheel drive bias. Those front wheel drive based systems are not designed to supply that much power solely to the rear wheels for very long. Less so when there's more of the vehicles weight on over the rear wheels vs. normal conditions. Even with the bigger clutch packs in the PTU that Jeep tends to use they will still overheat in that situation. It is what it is and it's why it's so crucial to make sure you are in the proper drive mode.
    2 points
  16. Evidence that SK Innovation stole or misappropriated trade secrets from LG Chem or LG Energy is scant. The litigation that is the subject of this thread is U.S. only, though LGC and SKI were involved in legal disputes in South Korea between 2011 and 2014.
    2 points
  17. I don't think its too much to ask for a vehicle with a name "Bronco" on it to hold up to abuse of the said reviews. Especially if Jeep is the target. I would expect a Kia SUV to have these issues. While this isn't the "end of the world" it is concerning. The video I posted from YouTube was a production Bronco Sport for reference that over heated. As mentioned, the good news is there is the Mid size Bronco which appears to be the real deal and will handle the extremes.
    2 points
  18. Got a hunch Ford is nervous about GM reopening Oshawa and building trucks there. That gives GM 3 large U.S. truck plants, Flint, Fort Wayne, and Oshawa. They also have a big one in Mexico and their medium duty trucks are built by partners Navistar and Isuzu. Possible they could outproduce Ford now. Maybe Ford needs to keep Avon Lake building trucks?
    2 points
  19. They beefed it up with cooling and a disconnect feature. The temp warning has been in use in multiple vehicles for a few years now. No matter how good it is it’s still not designed to send power to the rear continuously for hours. The badlands models have upgraded components. If those start overheating frequently while in the correct mode with actual owners then it might be an issue. It’s too early to tell, but I believe Ford did a lot of testing and I believe them that they never saw this. If that makes me a kool aid drinker so be it.
    2 points
  20. This was moderator approved to post. For 8 years I've built a relationship with a Ford dealer for ESPs. He had originally misquoted my ESP and honored it without even telling he misquoted by $400. He ended up taking a $300 loss on the deal. So during these 8 years, I've been trying to refer people to him because it is very difficult to find a standup guy to honor an error (I didn't buy a vehicle from him so there was no backend money made). Long story short, he sells to forum members Ford ESPs (genuine) at Dealer cost and I've had 500+ members buy from him across 49 states (I'm a moderator on 2 other forums). I have zero affiliation with him and I do not make any money or get paid any other way. Anyone in the US looking to buy a Ford ESP, please PM me and I will connect you with his contact info. Again, this is straight dealer cost, no profit to be made.
    1 point
  21. I read that when it published. I generally like David Tracy's writing (he's really the only one left at Jalopnik I enjoy. Everyone else seems to hate cars) but he's expecting way more than what this is capable of.
    1 point
  22. We all know everything is subject to change at fomoco. UAW has every damn right to be pissed. When I hear Ford retooling plans I say we’ll see based on all of this.
    1 point
  23. Of course they are because Ford is still dreadful at articulating a plan and taking investors and the UAW on a journey. I'm waiting for the shoe to drop at Louisville with Ford battery supply issues really hurting supply of hybrids, can't believe Hackett left an important supply issue in the wind...
    1 point
  24. The UAW is already pissed off because twice they've done this to Flat Rock in the last 5 years and now Ohio. Enough is enough.
    1 point
  25. Ive always found him to be pretty fair. The one complaint I've usually had with his reviews are complaints of audio systems. I don't care what his tests say, a properly EQ'd system won't sound like he claims. It's not that hard to do and it's more subjective than any other element of a car. I managed to do it on a Ranger with B&O in about 20 seconds during the ready for Ranger event when it launched.
    1 point
  26. Read the quote from the Jeep owner above. Ambient temp has a big effect.
    1 point
  27. So true. Nothing about small SUVs (because I refuse to use the made up marketing term crossover) is about capability. The vast majority have no more capability than an AWD sedan. But sedans became the new minivan and nobody wanted to be seen in them. It’s a facade of capability and all about image.
    1 point
  28. Yes sir twintornados. Tesla's dishonest and misleading marketing is getting worse nowadays.
    1 point
  29. Thanks man, we sure did but It came with a 590 million CAD price tag lol. I’m surprised our govt ponied up all that cash but obviously happy. BEV does play into environmental policies up here and what they want to do going forward. Just an update they’re tossing the edges out in the yard without microchips and processing Lincoln’s and some edge at through final I was told. End of quarter they gotta get these things out before they lay us off again!!
    1 point
  30. You forgot about the Diesel engine too. don't feel bad, so did everyone else
    1 point
  31. Hi Exit. The answers to your questions are relatively . 1. If you are a longtime customer, ask them. However, the answer in almost all cases will be no. Plus a Ford Dealer would normally not be in a position to offer the Lincoln perks (i.e. complementary loaners etc.), because they would not be compensated by Lincoln/Ford for them. 2. Yes, an X-Plan PIN is good for any Lincoln/Ford product (with a few special edition/high demand exceptions). Keep in mind participation in Plan sales is at Dealer discretion. Also, according to your patience and negotiating skills, it is possible to negotiate a better price than X-Plan on your own. 3. Once you trade-in your vehicle, a Dealer can do whatever they please with it, including certifying it as CPO. Let us know how you make out and good luck.
    1 point
  32. You set an excellent example Black Label sir of sharing your experiences in a polite, rational way with your dealership, with Lincoln, and on this forum. Very glad to hear that Lincoln returned the favor!
    1 point
  33. Thats my entire point. Nothing more, nothing less.
    1 point
  34. Thats fine you’re certainly entitled to your opinion. But in terms of styling (which is what this conversation is about) it’s not too far off. Again, never said it was a bad thing. People need to not immediately get so defensive
    1 point
  35. Just a guess: Oakville: MEB plant Cuautitlán: Model E plant Ohio: New medium duty - assuming Ford actually has a plan to replace E-series and F-650 Chicago: CD6 plant Louisville: C2 plant #1 Hermosillo: C2 plant #2 Kentucky: Superduty and Expedition Kansas City: Transit and F-150 Detroit: F-150 Michigan: T6 plant Flat Rock: S650 plant Flat Rock will need more products... can't keep the lights on with just Mustang in the long haul.
    1 point
  36. Does anyone know what CD 764 is? Rumor says it's a mkz replacement for China and may become a global model if reacted positively but I couldn't find any detail of it.
    1 point
  37. Thanks so much for a quick reply and the information. We realize these are not normal times and there are a lot issues today that can contribute to delays, hoping we will hear something back from our dealer as to what they were able to find out.
    1 point
  38. Which part are you taking issue with? I never said Ford didn’t understand truck buyers. I was equating the Fusion refresh and the F150 refresh and how some think that the Fusion sales were hampered because of its similarity to the previous model. But we see that with the F150 and it doesn’t affect sales. There’s a hypocrisy there. Chevy has not seen a lack of sales due to the styling of the Silverado. In fact, it’s helped GM overtake Ford in truck sales and has helped in giving GM over 6 billion in earnings.
    1 point
  39. Im here to tell you you’re wrong. You'll see.
    1 point
  40. The best support for your opinion (not!) is the 43+ years of F-Series sales leadership! No one knows or understands truck buyers better than Ford and the sales record speaks for itself. While Ford's actions may not meet your requirements, Ford consistently raises the bar for the pickup market. Just when the competition thinks they've caught up, Ford raises the bar again with new features, technology, etc. and the competition runs back to the drawing board.
    1 point
  41. That’s why in another thread I questioned where these two midsized EVs we’re gonna go. I never heard a peep about any kind of work going on at Avon lake in preparation for these vehicles. Makes more sense to just build the heavy vehicles there as you said.
    1 point
  42. Welcome to the internet...where everyone has a knee jerk reaction to everything lets be jaded here popular new product plus random issue with two vehicles=profit for the websites getting clicks on those said pages
    1 point
  43. I always thought that BEV production there was a bit odd.
    1 point
  44. There were only 2 incidents and both were pre production units. The hill climb incident was in an outer banks model which doesn’t have the additional PTU cooling and it recovered in 5 minutes. The 2nd one was a badlands but was driven “like a freakin’ idiot” in the sand for 15 minutes and she doesn’t know if it was in sand mode or not, which means probably not. But by all means let’s overreact.
    1 point
  45. All they did was find the limits of the system before it temporarily shut down, that's way different to a premature failure. If the Bronco Sport is insufficient for your needs, then get yourself a Bronco and if Bronco is still insufficient, then go build yourself a custom off road vehicle.
    1 point
  46. Latest update. LG Energy wrote a latter to Senator Raphael Warnock of Georgia, saying that the company will consider building its own battery plant in the state if SK Innovation can't proceed with operation of its plant in Jackson County. Also, LG Energy said that if another company acquires the SK Innovation plant, it will help operate it. https://www.vindy.com/news/local-news/2021/03/lg-energy-at-the-ready-for-georgia/
    1 point
  47. JP- "going chicken little" is the best way to put it. California has to deal with rolling black outs and think of the rural areas of the country that I have to believe are marginal on their current electricity supply. Electric vehicles with their less costly drive lines are one thing. Keeping them charged is another which seems to be, a secondary consideration at this point. And sourcing of materials for batteries? Another back burner consideration or so it seems.
    1 point
  48. Ah yes, back when people owned a pair of gloves, rather than demanding heated steering wheels,,,,,, HRG
    1 point
×
×
  • Create New...