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Hi. Actual electrician here. This in no way stupid. The code exists for a reason, and believe me I’m a big less regulations are better kind of guy. Even if it’s a 30 amp charger there’s still a lot to consider when deciding on wire size and length, whether or not to you want to backfeed to the panel in the event of a power outage and in that case if you do a transfer switch will be required by the utility (and code, it’s treated similar to a generator). This is not something the average DIY hack should ever consider doing.

Coulda woulda shoulda. Just build something already, or at least show some prototypes.

Oof that just fucking ugly lol

I noticed the other day that my dryer is powered by Ford 😛

Every decision Ford has made about this gen Escape has turned out to be questionable at best and downright baffling for the most part. It's really crazy how much they got wrong compare to RAV4 or CR-V. From the beginning they made the car too small and saddled it with a cheap interior. All the way to the end axing the car, which is in the biggest selling volume segment, without a proper replacement.

We want wagons! We want wagons! Here’s a wagon…. We don’t like that one.

If you want to ride eyes off take the bus, train, plane, uber, taxi, lyft etc.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to "drive" "eyes-off." We have BlueCruise in the Mach-E, and while it won't let you take your eyes off the road for more than a few seconds, I tried it. I tried closing my eyes (with my wife in the passenger seat watching, no traffic around, straight road) long enough for the "eyes on the road" warning to come on and I just couldn't do it. I just can't do it.

Sell vehicle outright, invest at 4.5%, buy at 0%. That's a big win if you're in the market.

This is not surprising. 1. It is the cheapest Ford you can buy 2. It has no real competition 3. Ford doesn't have an alt-sedan to compete in-house for these same buyers 4. It is a very good idea and executed well... shocking competence from Ford all around

Here are Ford's sales good to great numbers.....here are Ford's Q2 results https://s205.q4cdn.com/882619693/files/doc_news/2025/Jul/01/Ford-U-S-Q2-2025-Sales-Release.pdf And here are June monthly sales:

It’s not stupid when you’re talking about 50 amp double pole circuits. Lots of calculations to be made on wire size, length and more importantly capacity of the existing system. Permits and inspections are already required in most localities and most DIYers wouldn’t get a permit or inspection anyway.

Putting 8 different bodies on top of a shared chassis? Stop the presses! Why didn't someone think of this idea before? Some of these publications are really grasping at the straws 😄

Don’t forget when they actually do go on sale, they will no longer be low cost. Then they won’t update it for years which will eventually lead to its cancellation anyway.

From my experience the problem starts at the top, and the only way to correct it is with top down change (usually requiring a change in corporate culture). Having been on the supplier side, I do not see anything changing soon. Funny story, when Ford was doing a massive press shop modernization, all new hydraulic operated equipment was being installed in one area. There was a panic call just before startup that the hydraulic systems were malfunctioning - turns out the piping was very poorly done. Digging into how this happened, it seems that the contract for the hydraulic piping in that area was awarded to an electrical contractor due to their bid being lowest. And they had no experience in hydraulic piping, but knew how to run rigid conduit, and did a very substandard job. It looks as if this is endemic still.

Tesla already proved it’s not safe.

The idea that Escape buyers know or care about what’s under the hood is hilarious. Or any other basic transport vehicle. We enthusiasts severely overestimate the general car buying public’s knowledge and interest.

I’ve been very pleased with my wife’s Maverick. It’s a bit loud, and sounds a bit like a sewing machine, but in part I may just be too used to my Lightning.

Why aren't we talking about styling direction for Transit? 😆 It is the most iconic Ford. Certainly the one that is sold in most places.

Just wait for the additional doors to join the pack. Also heard the “New Edge” styling of the 1999-2004 Mustang might make a subtle reappearance at some point.

Black label went part of the way towards matching the level of customised interior trim selection in Escalade, I think that’s still an issue for the high end buyers plus those people probably expect a V8 to go with top money. You can see that Ford is not interested in going down those rabbit holes, mostly because it has been gearing up for a 3-Row BEV Lincoln for years but simply can’t get that done (Rivian based Lincoln) until T3 3-Row SUV drops. Looks like Lincoln is still stuck between two plans?

Low Cost Ford EV Platform Will Support Up To Eight Body Styles According to Axios, the low-cost Ford EV platform will support up to eight body styles, a revelation that came from Lisa Drake, Ford’s vice president of Technology Platform Programs and EV Systems, while she was speaking with investors last week. Drake noted that these vehicles could include crossovers, trucks, and even possibly sedans, all of which will use lithium-iron phosphate (LFP) batteries that are being developed with technology licensed from CATL and built in the U.S., all with an effort to keep costs as low as possible. --- Knowing Ford, that's 8 over the next 30 years, 6 of which will be cancelled next year, 4 revived the year after that, before being cancelled for good, alongside the discontinuation of 2 other models in the lineup without replacements...

So I revamped my charts and I put together a look at the entire truck market for all of the competitors in each segment (I didn't do ICE vans, though) - enjoy...... Also, Tesla and Rivian haven't reported any figures yet, but I'm not going to wait on them, as they're weird in their reporting anyway. Please note, it's been a lot of work to create this new setup when I've have time, so there may be some errors - let me know if you see any....thanks!

Ford's in a flux state as is the EV market in general. The recent story about customers "not caring about engines" and the Navigator coming 3rd-of-3 when compared against its domestic competitors are subjects to muddy the optics. The low cost EVs, plus real showings of direction heading forward can't come soon enough...and, I hope the R&D for ICE engines gets some re-prioritization as the world seems to be reconsidering the overly-aggressive shift to EVs.

Thanks my friend rmc523, you're a master of the quarterly sales spreadsheets! 😊 Like you said the numbers are mostly good to great. The 31% decline in EV sales in Q2 is a sore spot though. GM sold more Chevy Equinox EV in Q2 than Ford's entire EV lineup. New products from Ford's low cost EV platform can't come soon enough

Sure, but his point is not all recalls are the same. Similar to on those quality reports - someone not knowing how to program their bluetooth is different than the screen went blank and a wheel fell off.

I get these brands want to be secretive, but I've been saying for some time I'd like it if Ford openly revealed design sketches, and concepts to the public years in advance instead of revealing them right before production. Give designers time to change styling cues if they aren't well received by the public instead of only revealing something once the design is locked in.

Translation - we already spent the money and overcommitted to get there please don’t make us start over.

I have a truck sales comparison coming, but I'm waiting on some more reporting.

It would not be a Ford Bronco Sport but a model based on a Chinese new energy vehicle architecture. According to the latest information, both BEV models and Range-Extended EV will be available.

The article you quoted implies you can replace a 1.5 turbo with a NA 1.5 hybrid. But most hybrids are 2.5 Atkinson cycle for max mpg and a 1.5 Atkinson cycle won’t have enough power even with hybrid assist.

Leaked: https://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thread/460bc0f671a6113a/112249075-1.html#pvareaid=3454614 The badge on the tailgate confirms it is a Jiangling Ford product (not Chang'an Ford). So probably not a C2 vehicle... likely on whatever platform Equator Sport/Territory is using. Unless of course it is actually the next gen Bronco Sport... in which case, it is probably C2. But Jiangling Ford does not have any existing C2 production site.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ford-and-its-employees-to-offer-aid-in-texas-flood-recovery/ar-AA1ImgzO

Well, her only concern was whether or not it can pass other vehicles when she wants it to....it does and she is happy. I typically don't drive her car but will occasionally ride in it....I am an enthusiast as well, but more than anything else, I am an enthusiast of her being happy....she is so I am good.

Did someone mention Porsche offroad?

Rumor has it they're adding a new crease line down the side on the next gen model! VERY exciting stuff!

With the discontinuation of the tax credits to EV's, the competition will shake out the weaker players and we should begin to see steadier improvement of the segment to spur sales the old fashioned way, by providing better products.

It’s misleading not to include the vehicle count in the headline. But Ford recalls 171 vehicles isn’t as click worthy.

Meanwhile in Germany…….

It has a fixed glass roof, which is what many automakers are going toward, unfortunately. Come on man, re-read the sentence you quoted. No it doesn't...... 2026 Ford Explorer is losing its Panoramic Vista Roof, replacing it with the optional Panoramic Fixed Glass Roof. As a reminder, the Panoramic Vista Roof offers a moonroof component, meaning it can be partially opened. the sentence you quoted is reminding you that the panoramic vista roof - which Explorer is losing (i.e. discontinued) - had the ability to open it. The vista roof is now being replaced by a fixed glass roof option.

Ironically, my brother-in-law has a Tundra work truck that is a first year model, which makes it a 2022 I believe. The truck has a 104k on the clock already, however the motor just blew while towing a boat back from the lake. Toyota is going to replace the motor because it was covered under the recall they had. While at the dealer, they said there were three other recalls for various things. It’s funny, because I can’t recall the last time I have heard anything about Toyota recalls. Granted Ford has had a ridiculous number of recalls which must be addressed, but it’s pretty easy to protect your quality reputation when you don’t have the media sensationalize every quality woe you have.

2018 was a huge step up, but they didnt capitalize on its success. Its easy for gm to throw the kitchen sink at the escalade, it makes them way too much money. But for jeep to come out with a whole new luxurious and tech forward product with no previous base and as a 3 yr old platform still beat what lincoln claims is a new model is embarrassing for them. Who did they benchmark and how did that translate to dev? By no means is the new navigator a bad truck, but compared to its contemporaries, they dropped the ball heavily. The expy feels like a better product because it feels more competitive to its competitors at a cheaper price.

At this point there's no excuse for a bad ride or wind noise. Escalade always shoots for the stars, and Navigator just barely reaches it each time. If Ford was serious, this would have been over the top.

I'd be interested to see comparisons from other outlets, and whether they reach the same conclusion. It does seem like Ford phoned it in in a few areas on the new Expy/Navi. The big question is whether or not they'll stretch this model another 6 years plus a refresh (which would mean the body overall is 12 years old), or if them taking a "heavy refresh" approach means we'll get a shorter lifecycle and a new, better replacement sooner. Given it's Ford, it'll probably be the former, and they'll wonder where customers went. That said, sales have been great so far, so actual customers are speaking with their wallets.......but I'd imagine some of it has been a combo of clearing out '24s plus sales of '25s.

You can have any color you want as long as it’s grayscale

But really easy to clean!

I know this all too well as a maverick owner. Everyone bitches about the interior being hard plastic on a hybrid truck that I spent 28k on, it's insane. I've said everyone says they want a 20k car, but what they really want is a 50k car a brand can magically sell for 20.

Everybody is screaming, "I want a cheap car" (aka, the mythical $20,000 EV) but when a company actually does it and puts out a cheap car (steelies with plastic covers, simple taillight design, no frills interior) everybody bitches about it.

Since the Bronco and Ranger Launches, we've had no new products released....so yeah there is an issue.