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It finally arrived and no tariffs. 0-60 4.0 secs. Couldn’t be happier!

Can't wait for the new Ford Mustang Shelby GT-350-500 Dark Horse Bullitt Boss Cobra GT-GTD with performance pack!!

Guess what wasn’t a big problem during his first term but is now? Fentanyl.

I mean they've also said all models will be electrified soon, so they'll have to do something. Taking advantage of tech they already have ROW and in-house (Powerboost) would seemingly be the easiest route, IMO. Man, Ford's REALLY planning ahead now eh? And talk about product launch delays....

427, 429 - whatever it takes….. 😂

Is that with or without the 258 million fentanyl deaths Trump prevented in the last three months? how anyone could believe these people is beyond me. https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/bondi-far-overstates-the-impact-of-fentanyl-seizures-on-american-lives/

That’s not true. Fentanyl has been an issue in this country for close to a decade.

Then it’s time for Mexico to step up to the bargaining table and get their own deal.

Mustang Final Boss. lol.

Neither. I'd rather work at McD's for a month for the same money than paint for 2 days. Ugh I hate painting!

or option #3 (Ford's normal choice) - drop 3 products, and replace them with one* *in 6 years....until Ford's plans change by then

I think it was a great idea to build a car like that, buy why did they make it look the way that it does and not like this concept?

Here me out. The larger size, the very boxy shape... call it the flex. The flex is one of those models with a very strong cult following as far as three row crossovers go. I look at this, and see the flex name working well on it, and appealing to a lot of consumers.

I dunno the interior hard points from what I can see are completely different then the Bronco Sport and the Escape. The headlights are completely different too. Could this possibly be a CE1 CUV?

Eh, with Ford's product cadence of late, that's likely the real launch date anyway lol.

I’m either prophetic or typing on my phone, enjoy the laugh, I did.

2026 Ford Mustang Dark Horse Boss Possibly Spotted Testing: Pics Not sure if this was reported elsewhere, but it appears to be a great time for Mustang people...

Well if you can steal an entire Raptor….

There was a former member of this site that banned himself wanting Ford to spin off Ford Blue from Ford Motor Company ASAP. If they’d had done that Ford would have been bankrupt. The spin off probably would have survived, but the original company going forward as Ford Model e only? Toast.

Like Visteon?

Whatever beef he has with Mexico is one thing but he’s now hurting GM and Ford when there’s a good deal in place that he negotiated in his first term…. Mister “who negotiated this deal? (USMCA) not one person in the room was game to say “it was you mister president….” and does he even read what he signs…..

So I tracked down the original article on Autohome.com.cn and they had this picture of some kind of product presentation from Ford. https://www.autohome.com.cn/news/202505/1305967.html#pvareaid=102624 It shows Ford's SUV strategy in China but has some very interesting stuff: Bronco Family (left side) with 2 new trim/special editions coming in 2025: "Big Sand Dune March 2025" [note: looks similar to US spec Wildtrak] and "Retro Edition 2nd half 2025" and below are the existing versions "Big Bend", "Black Diamond", "Outer Banks", "Bad Lands" Pickup Family with 3 new trim/special editions coming in 2025: "Sand Fox Edition January 2025" [note: it is FX4], "Sasquatch Limited Edition 2nd half 2025", and "Sasquatch 2nd half 2025" and below are the existing versions "1st Edition", "Landtrak", "Exploration", "Forest" (I think Forest is the base model) Raptor Family with 2 new model coming: "Bronco Raptor 1st half 2025", F-150 Raptor 1st half 2025" Urban SUV (that's what they call CUV in China) with 1 new model coming: "All new active lifestyle SUV", and below the two existing CUV model Equator Sport and Equator New Energy SUV with 1 new model coming: "New energy Bronco in 10-12 month", and below is the current Equator PHEV The "All new active lifestyle SUV" is obviously the one in the spy photo. The "New energy Bronco" didn't say PHEV but I'm fairly certain it will be PHEV not EV because we know Ranger PHEV exists. What is notable here is what is missing... no Explorer, no Edge, no Escape, no Mach E. They don't appear in Ford's long term plan in China.

Just call it a Boss 302 or 315 depending on whether it’s using the 5.0 or 5.2 and be done with it.

Interesting thought! So slap the Flex name on something 2 sizes smaller than the old Flex? Just to retain the name of a broadly unpopular model (owners loved them, including me, but the market as a whole didn't)? I loved the Flex, but nah.....if anything, make a new body EV9-like model to be Flex. This would just be Bronco Sport v2. The Fairlane name would have done absolutely nothing for sales.....if anything, it sounds old and may have negatively impacted sales, IMO. In this scenario/current thinking, they're saying this would replace our existing Bronco Sport, so there'd still only be 2 models. Well, 1) that was Ford's plan last week, and 2) he said "commodity" products.....and their current line of thinking is that slapping "Bronco" on it makes it not commodity.

It’s been said over and over that short wheelbase is a huge CAFE liability.

Nnnaaahhh... The Flex was beautiful in an English Bulldog sense; affable, family friendly, somewhat odd proportions. I had one. A Flex, not a pug. More room than the Explorer and the SEL had the best combo of options that Ford has ever marketed, IMO.

So you want to ditch a 50+ yr old Ford Iconic name that exudes toughness for a great but quirky vehicle name that only lasted 10 years?

This will make a much better edge/escape replacement.

Because it results in automakers having to follow 2 completely different standards.

It's not just California. Depending on how you define it, between 14-17 states, and the District of Colombia, follow the California standards.

The Ranger and Bronco aren't all that different when it comes to electronic subsystems. The bigger gripe I have is the Bronco (and I think Ranger) doesn't have automatic lane keeping and distancing like the Bronco Sport has. I've used it a couple times on my wife's Bronco Sport and even on a short hour drive or so, it cuts down on the amount of "fatigue" of just keeping the vehicle in the lane. Yeah I know it sounds lazy, but noticed when I was done with the drive, I wasn't as mentally or physically tired as if I had to do most of the "driving" myself-it cut the amount of effort by 50% or more. You set the cruise control, and just keep your hand on the wheel and keep aware of the traffic around you, instead of doing all of that plus keeping the vehicle centered in the lane and accelerating/decelerating. I was slightly impressed it came to a complete stop when I had it set for around town driving doing 40 mph and stopped with a resonable gap between you and the car in front.

How sad we must look at other countries' future Ford produces to look for some excitement...😑

So I did some more digging and looking at photos and whatever this Bronco is, its based off the Lincoln Nautilus/Ford Mondeo Sport platform, at least going by its interior. I have a Bronco Sport and had a last gen Escape and my parents have a current gen one and you'd be amazed at how much they share in minor details with the interior-they look "different" but things like storage places or hard points are the same. This Bronco has a very similar center console/arm rest to the Nautilus and Mondeo Sport. The dash could be a modified Nautilus dash with just a 12 inch screen in the middle. The steering wheel is similar to what is on the Mondeo Sport with a Bronco center.

Hyundai makes large diesel vans and sells them in other markets outside North America. The smaller but still large Staria van has a commercial version and an upcoming EV variant. They have a midsize pickup under the Kia-brand for the rest-of-the-world-markets. The way things are going, Ford is a commercial vehicle manufacturer that also builds Mustangs. The biggest mistake of Ford is killing most of the models it can sell globally and build in multiple regional plants. Trucks like the F-series and other full-size models that Ford focuses on have no real market outside the US and Canada. Ford can't seem to balance running its business globally like other manufacturers. When it focuses in its home market, it tends to sacrifice the others.

Here's a design study I saw for a new probe. It's nice, but I'd rather get like a small coupe that takes some styling from an old notchback mustang or something. This is a lancia, but you see what I have in mind.

New England Ford dealers have been running an ad recently pushing commercial trucks. And the opening shot actually has a 650/750 that looks like it is pulling a tag with equipment on it. I'll have to pay closer attention. Someone in marketing must have missed the message that " we don't push class 6/7 trucks"!

Well, I think it depends... Equator, and Equator Sport are Jiangling Ford products. So they are on the local platform that utilized Mitsubishi 4G engine and off the shelve DCT. Explorer, Edge, Mach E, and Escape are Chang'an Ford products and they all use Ford platform, engine and transmission. If Chinese Bronco Sport is supposed to replace Escape, it should be a Chang'an Ford which implies it will be C2. But there is too much unknown to make a guess. We'll just have to wait. If Chinese Bronco Sport is a Jiangling Ford product, then you really have to wonder what will happen with the Chang'an JV.

Awesome car! Hope you enjoy it.

Nice retirement present! Enjoy! HRG

We have it on our Nautilus. It works pretty well 80% of the time but sometimes it pulls the vehicle too close to the adjoining lane (on top of the line). And the lines were very visible. I usually don’t use it.

Since the statements were addressed to shareholders, I’m betting some wild rumours have been concerning them and this is just Ford calming those concerns. Sometimes they have to repeat the obvious…..

Bigger vehicles explorer sized and up make complete sense. It’s when you get to smaller compact vehicles with 3 rows that I don’t get. No one with a large family buys a compact. I would never try to fit 7 people into a longer bronco sport. Hell I didn’t buy a current bronco sport because my kids were complaining about 2nd row leg room. That 3rd row would be useless and only adds cost to the vehicle and takes up storage space.

Drop 3 products making $200M and replace them with 1 making $500M? Any day. Fusion/MKZ replaced by Maverick and Bronco Sport. Focus replaced by Bronco and Ranger. Ecosport replaced by Mach E. Taurus and Continental were the only ones dropped outright recently due to low sales and market shrinkage without a replacement but they added Lightning and all the new EV development for future vehicles.

Mustang Super Sasquatch Duty.

This. And going too far by trying to ban ICE altogether.

Yup, I remember using the feature when my mom had her '20 Explorer ST, and I enjoyed it. Bronco's also cuts out at like 20mph or something like that.....it basically got Ford's last-gen ACC. I also was surprised when Bronco didn't have that feature too......it just seemed like they "cheaped out" on a lot of the tech features the rest of the lineup already had when Bronco debuted.

I don't think it would be that big of an impact-IMO it would be an Escape/Edge replacement. It solves the "boring" issue those two products have. The Bronco Sport is 172" long, the current Escape is 180", the Edge is 188 and the Bronco is 191" or so for a 4 door model. The Nautilus/Mondeo Sport is 193.

Because there is no transmission or driveshaft, most EV platforms are designed so it can be FWD, RWD, or AWD depending on how many motors you want to use and you can just change it however you want or need. Case in point, Polestar 2 single motor started as FWD but switched to RWD after 3 years. VW MEB is likewise designed for all 3 applications. As for snow traction, someone already pointed out the weight of EV is in the center where the battery sits so either drive wheels will work... it's not a big problem. I don't think there is evidence support a blanket statement that FWD EV is cheaper to engineer or cheaper to build. But I do think old habits die hard so car companies often default to what they did before - they've done B-segment car for 60 years as FWD and maybe there is no reason to do anything differently. The other main reason for sticking with FWD on small cars is car companies want to preserve the handling characteristic. Renault was asked why its Renault 5 EV is FWD and that was the answer it gave... they wanted it to handle like a FWD hot hatch. VW maybe thinking the same thing on ID.2.

I believe fmco was referring to upholding the written language in our UAW contract with Ford. It is only fair, and IS the UAW's job to enforce that language. In the past 2-3 contracts, the UAW has NOT enforced certain aspects of the contract and letting Ford "slide" on some of the agreements they had agreed to. To quit Ford for not abiding by the contract is just ridiculous. Also, to let Ford just do what they want, especially if it goes against what was agreed to, is just being naive and spineless. During the hard times, we accepted Fords need to bypass some of the language stated in our contract for their survival. But now, it seems that we are being taken advantage of while Ford rakes in the money and the UAW leadership stands idle when certain aspects of our contract need to be questioned and/or upheld.