Bryan1 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 2012 Ford E-Series -- No Change 2012 Ford Edge -- Minor Updates Ford Vertrek Concept Side 2012 Ford Escape The Escape is in need of a good update, and with the One Ford plan in full swing, it is expected to merge with Europe's Kuga crossover. Based on the Vertrek show car revealed at the 2011 Detroit show, this Mondeo-based soft-roader will likely maintain separate names for each market but transition to a version of the Vertrek's sheetmetal, which better matches the new Focus and Fiesta. 2012 Ford Expedition/EL -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford Explorer -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford F-150 -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford Flex -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford Ranger -- No Change 2012 Ford Transit Connect -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford Super Duty -- Minor Updates http://www.trucktrend.com/future/163_1101_2012_future_trucks_and_suvs/chrysler_dodge_and_ford.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiseystud Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 2012 Ford Expedition/EL -- Minor Updates http://www.trucktrend.com/future/163_1101_2012_future_trucks_and_suvs/chrysler_dodge_and_ford.html No engine updates coming in the 2012 Expedition? I was hoping for the 5.0 and the 3.5L EB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Wow TruckTrend, that is some detailed info! Half of what TT says is just flat wrong. The other half is questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 No engine updates coming in the 2012 Expedition? I was hoping for the 5.0 and the 3.5L EB. If the 2012 model doesn't get them, I would think that the 2013 would get them and be available early, like maybe a year from now. I can't imagine them making the 3V 5.4 too much longer for just the Expy & Nav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I can't imagine them making the 3V 5.4 too much longer for just the Expy & Nav. It's quite possible that they've already built enough of them to last for another couple of years' production. I remember when they finally stopped building the Windsor V8's, there were still thousands of them sitting around, which is one of the reasons it stuck around in the Explorer for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 It's quite possible that they've already built enough of them to last for another couple of years' production. I remember when they finally stopped building the Windsor V8's, there were still thousands of them sitting around, which is one of the reasons it stuck around in the Explorer for so long. That's true about the Explorer's old 5.0 and then Ford Racing sold the rest of them after that. They must of built millions of that engine. I still remember the ads for those leftover engines in MM&FF. I guess building a couple hundred thousand extra 5.4's is not that big of a deal. I just wish they would update the Expy already... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 2012 Ford E-Series -- No Change 2012 Ford Edge -- Minor Updates Ford Vertrek Concept Side 2012 Ford Escape The Escape is in need of a good update, and with the One Ford plan in full swing, it is expected to merge with Europe's Kuga crossover. Based on the Vertrek show car revealed at the 2011 Detroit show, this Mondeo-based soft-roader will likely maintain separate names for each market but transition to a version of the Vertrek's sheetmetal, which better matches the new Focus and Fiesta. 2012 Ford Expedition/EL -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford Explorer -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford F-150 -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford Flex -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford Ranger -- No Change 2012 Ford Transit Connect -- Minor Updates 2012 Ford Super Duty -- Minor Updates http://www.trucktrend.com/future/163_1101_2012_future_trucks_and_suvs/chrysler_dodge_and_ford.html There is no 2012 Ranger. 2013MY will be the new Escape - 2012 is basically unchanged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManFord Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 So when will the Expedition be getting a complete redesign? I know its not a top priority, but I'm positive sales will pick up some once a redesigned model is launched. I guess with gas prices rising once again its being pushed back to the back-burner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiseystud Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) So when will the Expedition be getting a complete redesign? I know its not a top priority, but I'm positive sales will pick up some once a redesigned model is launched. I guess with gas prices rising once again its being pushed back to the back-burner. Gas pricing rising makes even more of a reason to get a redesign done, especially on the power plants. People be less apt to buy a truck that gets ~15.5mpg(avg of city and highway). If they could release the truck even in its same body with a new drive train and ecoboost and lets say they get 18+mpg(avg of city and highway) people would buy it big time. People still want big SUVs they just want to have more efficient SUVs... at least I do. Edited February 5, 2011 by joiseystud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94ranger Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Gas pricing rising makes even more of a reason to get a redesign done, especially on the power plants. People be less apt to buy a truck that gets ~15.5mpg(avg of city and highway). If they could release the truck even in its same body with a new drive train and ecoboost and lets say they get 18+mpg(avg of city and highway) people would buy it big time. People still want big SUVs they just want to have more efficient SUVs... at least I do. I totally agree about wanting to have a more fuel efficient big SUVs. I drive a 2004 Grand Cherokee and it is the smallest vehicle I have ever driven and is the smallest vehicle I ever want to drive regularly, save a for a Mustang someday :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) 2013MY will be the new Escape - 2012 is basically unchanged. And the 2013 will not be Mondeo based. (Rather C2 - CD4 will be the next Edge) Edited February 5, 2011 by sullynd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 So when will the Expedition be getting a complete redesign? I know its not a top priority, but I'm positive sales will pick up some once a redesigned model is launched. I guess with gas prices rising once again its being pushed back to the back-burner. I think the Expedition is in a wait-and-see mode on a complete re-design until the new F-150. If they can affordably bring F-150's weight down and improve mileage, they'll probably use that (P4?) platform to do a new (T2?) Expedition. So figure 2015 model year? We could/should see a refresh with new engine options, though, I don't think they'll keep producing 5.4 that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 If the 2012 model doesn't get them, I would think that the 2013 would get them and be available early, like maybe a year from now. I can't imagine them making the 3V 5.4 too much longer for just the Expy & Nav. Econoline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 GM's big SUV's are in 'older' designs, and selling OK, so no pressure to re-do big Fords. The loyal buyers really aren't demanding new styling, just more features, gizmos, options, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Econoline? the E-series uses the old 2V 4.6, 5.4 and 6.8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 i don't think the expy will get a full redesign until the new f150 is ready. but i do think it will get new engines and an interior refresh before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raina Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Thank you for finally making some major changes to the escape. Besides adding the Sync it doesn't feel like it has been changed since the beginning. I looked at the 2010 and was really disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Nunley Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 If gas prices keep going up you may never see a redesign of the expedition. Maybe they can save it with a lighter weight platform and more efficient engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSFan00 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I would say adding the 2.0 EB engine option to the Explorer is a fairly significant update/upgrade/change. It is due this fall I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFD66 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Been looking at the new explorer for my wife, the 2.0 EB engine would be a nice engine option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97svtgoin05gt Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'm just a little skeptical as to how the EB2.0 will fair in the Explorer. That is a lot of truck to be hauling around with that little engine. Its not so much the power being produced, we know that'll be okay its just on the durability side, people may hammer it harder all the time since the weight of that vehicle isn't exactly small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest liquidleaf Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I completely love my Excursion but understand why it was discontinued - it would be really sad if the Expedition went the same way though. It's nice to have (even if in small numbers) an SUV that can handle heavy towing... If they got rid of the Expedition as well, I'd be forced to look to the dark side (Suburban/Tahoe etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I completely love my Excursion but understand why it was discontinued - it would be really sad if the Expedition went the same way though. It's nice to have (even if in small numbers) an SUV that can handle heavy towing... If they got rid of the Expedition as well, I'd be forced to look to the dark side (Suburban/Tahoe etc). Join the club. With no midsize or smaller truck apparently in Ford's plans instead of replacing my current Ford with another new Ford I will be looking at either a used Sport Trac that is newer/less miles than my current one or at another brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC Eng Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 2012 F150 information... http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/07/2012-ford-f-150-expected-to-feature-improved-payload-capacity.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I completely love my Excursion but understand why it was discontinued - it would be really sad if the Expedition went the same way though. It's nice to have (even if in small numbers) an SUV that can handle heavy towing... If they got rid of the Expedition as well, I'd be forced to look to the dark side (Suburban/Tahoe etc). Expy slated to recieve the 3.5 Eco-boost...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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