Fgts Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 https://www.caranddriver.com/news/2021-ford-ranger-raptor-spied-with-america-appropriate-left-hand-drive A video was in the link and the truck didn't sound like a diesel, 2.7 EB ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 FWIW I commented on a twitter post from Mike Levine about the Aussie Ranger Raptor I said it looked like too much fun to keep out of North America and he liked it. Not sure it means anything but it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) HD Raptor shouldn't be a surprise... Ford sells Rangers in lots of LHD markets in Europe, Middle East, and Asia. I'm not fully convinced that there is a V6 under the hood until someone snaps a photo with the hood open. Edited June 27, 2018 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 All that said if the Ranger Raptor does make it here, I wouldnt expect it until after the Bronco launches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 fuzzy...my thoughts exactly....with the new chassis underneath....and hopefully the capacity for more than one drivetrain..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 A video was in the link and the truck didn't sound like a diesel, 2.7 EB ?. The only clear engine sound I heard in the video sounded like a low-rev diesel rattle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 In the entire history of the Ranger I can't think of a single drivetrain it has shared with the F-150 and I seriously doubt it ever will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 All that said if the Ranger Raptor does make it here, I wouldnt expect it until after the Bronco launches. Only reason I could see a short run with this generation is that the development is done for it, so it is just profit to build them and get the ATP's up higher which wall street will like. Not sure it is nationwide but Ford might be building to many Raptors, every dealer around here has 2-4 on the lot and are now selling them at under sticker and some guys on the Raptor board are getting them for $500 over invoice. I can see that being more common with the 2019 improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) This is the Global Ranger Raptor, there are no active plans to bring this here. You'll notice that the Global Ranger also has different design elements which were modified for the US even if they generally look similar (Tailgate, Taillight Shape and Design, Rear Glass, Bed Sides, Metal bumpers and frame mounts, CHMSL, etc.) You can also hear the Diesel clatter when it revs. I'm told the Bronco gets the 2.7L V6, but nobody is calling the platform new. The reason the Ranger can't get a V6 is because of the engine bay packaging which has been redesigned for Bronco. I think it's likely we'll get a redesigned Ranger eventually but Ranger and Bronco share the same updated 2019 T6 most likely (extended frame mounts for the front bumper and tow hooks). I'm actually hoping the NG Ranger evolves from the Bronco like the Jeep Scrambler, the global Ranger has no charisma or style. I'm very curious to see if the Jeep Scrambler overtakes the traditional mid-sizers and if that's the direction Ford should take...eventually. Edited June 28, 2018 by Assimilator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 It's not uncommon for Ford to send Ranger to the US for final Field validation testing, there's a nice range of altitudes and driving conditions all in the one country that you just don't see together in other parts of the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) In the entire history of the Ranger I can't think of a single drivetrain it has shared with the F-150 and I seriously doubt it ever will. Get ready in CY2021 for a version with 2.7 EB.... Edited June 28, 2018 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I'm actually hoping the NG Ranger evolves from the Bronco like the Jeep Scrambler, the global Ranger has no charisma or style. I'm very curious to see if the Jeep Scrambler overtakes the traditional mid-sizers and if that's the direction Ford should take...eventually. Very doubtful...the Jeep Scrambler will appeal to Wrangler owners and might bring in some additional sales, but given how the Wrangler is designed vs a traditional pickup truck-a traditional pickup should offer a far better day to day living environment then a Wrangler based pickup. I know the next gen Wrangler has improved upon this, but IMO I think this where the Bronco should be focusing in on-a more polished day to day driving experience vs the Wrangler. Yes, the Ranger is bland, but I'm hoping since NA has it now, it will get some F-150 based DNA in its styling to set it apart from the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 In the entire history of the Ranger I can't think of a single drivetrain it has shared with the F-150 and I seriously doubt it ever will. Times change. This Ranger is larger than the previous trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Times change. This Ranger is larger than the previous trucks. Ford also never put a turbo gas engine in F series before and they never had a F150 or Ranger Raptor back then either. I think that decision had more to do with the small engine bay in the Ranger than anything strategic or marketing related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Correct. Bronco is the first vehicle on next Generation T6, the global Ranger will switch in 2021 as a 2022 year model, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 @jasonj80...sorry. $500 over invoice on the current Raptor is hard to swallow...as a DEALER we are paying over MSRP PLUS trucking to get them...the BEST deal ive heard of was atoken discount under MSRP, and here in Cali we have people buying them out of state for 5k over as the market here is higher.....unless you've seen a contract and youre basing what you say on something you've read, rmember, if its on the internet...its got to be true...$500 over invoice....no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) I paid $3,660 below MSRP on my Raptor, from a dealer I have had a long term relationship with last March. It wasnt invoice but it was a dang good price. So deals can and do happen. My local dealer had a $70k Raptor recently for $67,500. I recognize my situation is not as common, however I have been seeing more discounts and more units on the lots. Im not sure how to read that other than they may have over produced a bit. I had read they werent going to limit the production of the Raptors but I hope they help protect the values of existing models by not over supplying. Edited June 29, 2018 by tbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 very/ very rare Tbone….we have a multitude of customers per unit....and run out of inventory all the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) RRP for Ranger Raptor in Australia is around AUS$74K or around USD$57K for the 2.0 diesel 10 AT, I could see the new 3.0 Ecoboost fitting in there just fine for North America...but that would be a model on from now. Edited June 29, 2018 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 That Ranger Raptor is in the US for final validation work before release in September in other parts of the world, it has nothing to do with local Ranger developments in the USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 very/ very rare Tbone.we have a multitude of customers per unit....and run out of inventory all the time... If you guys can get significantly above MSRP it seems you should be buying from other dealers for MSRP and just transporting them out to you for resale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Maybe Ford needs to have its own tent assembly line across the road from Tesla Suck on this Elon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I paid $3,660 below MSRP on my Raptor, from a dealer I have had a long term relationship with last March. It wasnt invoice but it was a dang good price. So deals can and do happen. My local dealer had a $70k Raptor recently for $67,500. I recognize my situation is not as common, however I have been seeing more discounts and more units on the lots. Im not sure how to read that other than they may have over produced a bit. I had read they werent going to limit the production of the Raptors but I hope they help protect the values of existing models by not over supplying. When they announced the 19's, people started cancelling orders on the 18's I was talking to my salesman and he had 2 customers cancel that day. When I picked mine up, he also told me they had been offered allocation for 12 more they wern't expecting, so perhaps they are over producing. I got mine at MSRP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just looked at the Ford Vehicle Locator and there are 303 2018 F-150 Raptors at the closest 300 dealers including units in the plant and in transit. We sold our last Raptor 6-8 weeks ago and won't see our next one until late July or early August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just looked at the Ford Vehicle Locator and there are 303 2018 F-150 Raptors at the closest 300 dealers including units in the plant and in transit. We sold our last Raptor 6-8 weeks ago and won't see our next one until late July or early August. Someone on FRF did a similar search because some are saying the Raptor is scarce. Turns out the one that's really scarce is the F-150 Limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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