akirby Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 So what is the 2.0 Diesel going in? Ranger? Or a FWD utility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 So what is the 2.0 Diesel going in? Ranger? Or a FWD utility? Transit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Transit? Seems like Transit would get the 3.0 not the 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 So what is the 2.0 Diesel going in? Ranger? Or a FWD utility? Well it is already engineered for the Ranger and Edge so could be one or even both. They might need it for a CAFE bump. Totally not going to happen but maybe the Focus Active to appeal to old VW customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I question the need for a diesel as Hybrids seem to be the direction being taken..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I question the need for a diesel as Hybrids seem to be the direction being taken..... Could just be a short term compliance to get CAFE numbers up for 2 model years and its cheaper to federalize an exsisting powertrain that is already developed. So they spend 3 million to federalize it is way cheaper than a hybrid for 2 model years. Did the oil sheet say North American or US? Canada is going to allow Euro emission so it could be for their market and they wouldnt even need to pay anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 silly question...and I cannot find the answer....is the supercabs rear half door fixed or hinged like the F-150?..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Did the oil sheet say North American or US? Canada is going to allow Euro emission so it could be for their market and they wouldnt even need to pay anything. North America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Speaking of diesels, I was somewhat surprised to see the new RAM 1/2 ton dropped the diesel for now. Diesel gate scare them off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 didn't know they ahd dropped the diesel...but have heard some horror stories regarding issues and waiting for parts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 Speaking of diesels, I was somewhat surprised to see the new RAM 1/2 ton dropped the diesel for now. Diesel gate scare them off? Probably trying to sort out the existing production issues at changeover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 RAM is getting it back early next year, you can actually get the Diesel in the Grand Cherokee again went away for the 2017MY.https://www.off-road.com/blog/2018/01/16/ram-1500-ecodiesel-return-2019-claims-efficiency-king/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Priced a Ranger yesterday. For what I would have to pay to get something as close as I can to being equipped similar to my Sport Trac it would be well over 40k and many of those features are not even available. Not paying that kind of money for a four-banger when a left-over '18 F-150 can be had with all the features I want and lots of incentives. It's painfully obvious to me that despite what Ford said when the 2019 Ranger was first announced however many years ago they really have no desire to compete with themselves. IMO the Ranger is a half-hearted attempt to re-enter a market they never should have left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Yep no doubt. You can purchase a well optioned F150 XLT SuperCrew 4x4 most anytime of the year for ~$35000 or less (after discounts and rebates of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucelinc Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) If you guys are satisfied with the size of the F150, why would you even consider a Ranger? Part of the appeal of the "old" Ranger was undoubtedly price...although that was not the reason I owned 3 of them and still have a 4X4 supercab with every option. The appeal of the new one is a package that takes up less space than an F150, uses a bit less fuel and has modern features, safety, quality and refinement that was missing in the old one. I am not a fan of the 4 cylinder engine but since an F150 simply will not fit in the places I want to put it, the Ranger would be the only truck I would consider. Edited August 26, 2018 by brucelinc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Well said brucelinc. I would buy another F150 based on cost and my situation, but to each their own. It is nice to have options and I think the Ranger will sell decently. Who knows, maybe the Ranger will lead to less incentives on the F150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Id like to see the sport appearance package as a stand alone option. A base lariat with sport appearance package for around $36k seems like a decent deal, but instead I have to add $2k worth of stuff I dont need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 If you guys are satisfied with the size of the F150, why would you even consider a Ranger? Part of the appeal of the "old" Ranger was undoubtedly price...although that was not the reason I owned 3 of them and still have a 4X4 supercab with every option. The appeal of the new one is a package that takes up less space than an F150, uses a bit less fuel and has modern features, safety, quality and refinement that was missing in the old one. I am not a fan of the 4 cylinder engine but since an F150 simply will not fit in the places I want to put it, the Ranger would be the only truck I would consider. Well said. This is why I want to get one but the price is making me take a step back to reevaluate whether or not I really want to pull the trigger on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Who knows, maybe the Ranger will lead to less incentives on the F150. I dont see the need. Most of the time Ford already puts less incentives on the F-150 than GM and RAM do on their trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I dont see the need. Most of the time Ford already puts less incentives on the F-150 than GM and RAM do on their trucks. This will be interesting to see what Ford does since the F150 will now technically be the oldest of the bunch, although to me GM is just catching up to the current F150. Ram just kind of does its own thing which works for them, however I dont think it is a better truck. Some cool new features, but not a better truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) Technically older yes but GM and RAM have the job of convincing their respective buyers That theyve done enough to be considered more than just light evolutions of the previous trucks, nothing says progress like an alloy body and thats something the others cant take from Ford Edited August 26, 2018 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Ford heavily discounts the XL and XLT F150s (usually 5K-6K) but not Lariat or higher trims. That “four banger” has far more power than your old Sport Trac. I’m sure a similarly optioned Ranger will be $2K-$5K less than a comparable F150. Once Ranger is available I expect the big XL and XLT F150 discounts to be reduced a little since Ranger can pick up the lower price point. But I don’t expect them to be giving them away either as I expect a big initial demand from folks who simply don’t want a F150 and don’t care about cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Part of the appeal of the "old" Ranger was undoubtedly price... I disagree ! MOST of the appeal of the Ranger was price !! I had a standard cab Ranger for a year. Mu then future son-ln-law who is 6'4" actually had so sit with his head bent and knees up to drive that thing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 That “four banger” has far more power than your old Sport Trac. And get much better mileage ! I really liked the Sport Trac, and would have bought one IF it had a better V6 and a better transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Seeing as we are talking about Sport Trac, I wish Ford would bring back an option that it had. Rubber floor covered with coco floor mats. Take the maps out and hose them off. Easily sweep dirt out of the cab and wash if the rubber if required. Very practical. Maybe on the Bronco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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