Anthony Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Ford trucks 2018: F-Series For Trucks 2022 (?): F-Series Electric F-Series Ranger Bronco Pickup Rivian Derived Pickup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, Anthony said: Ford trucks 2018: F-Series For Trucks 2022 (?): F-Series Electric F-Series Ranger Bronco Pickup Rivian Derived Pickup Missing the small TC based Pickup... Speaking of GM...the Escalade is supposed to get a BEV with 400 mile range in a few years...I'd assume the Navigator and Expedition would be sharing the BEV package with the F-150 also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerSooner Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Was I the only one impressed by the nylon strap? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, silvrsvt said: Missing the small TC based Pickup... Speaking of GM...the Escalade is supposed to get a BEV with 400 mile range in a few years...I'd assume the Navigator and Expedition would be sharing the BEV package with the F-150 also. Oh jeez, of course! They had to get rid of cars because there's no room left on the lot for them! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 11:24 AM, twintornados said: I would say that GE locomotives are the best example of hybrid technology in the market today...been doing it for over two decades. Diesel-electric locomotives have been around since before WWII. The Balao-class subs used the same Fairbanks-Morse diesel-electrics as the railroad locomotives. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, SoonerLS said: Diesel-electric locomotives have been around since before WWII. The Balao-class subs used the same Fairbanks-Morse diesel-electrics as the railroad locomotives. Good info SoonerLS sir. Hybrid cars also go back a long time. Ferdinand Porsche developed a hybrid car in 1900. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 8 hours ago, SoonerLS said: Diesel-electric locomotives have been around since before WWII. The Balao-class subs used the same Fairbanks-Morse diesel-electrics as the railroad locomotives. 8 hours ago, rperez817 said: Good info SoonerLS sir. Hybrid cars also go back a long time. Ferdinand Porsche developed a hybrid car in 1900. Well, for what it's worth, I did say "today".....lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 16 hours ago, BoomerSooner said: Was I the only one impressed by the nylon strap? Maybe that's why they kept the "chase truck" with the owners on the other side of the 42-truck lineup? HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 22 hours ago, silvrsvt said: Missing the small TC based Pickup... Speaking of GM...the Escalade is supposed to get a BEV with 400 mile range in a few years...I'd assume the Navigator and Expedition would be sharing the BEV package with the F-150 also. and given that the eF150 has IRS, it would be a no brain extension to the SUV top hats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 38 minutes ago, jpd80 said: and given that the eF150 has IRS, it would be a no brain extension to the SUV top hats. Flip it around - maybe they used the SUV frame for the F150e because it already has IRS, and made it easier to engineer the battery pack in between the rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Harley Lover said: Flip it around - maybe they used the SUV frame for the F150e because it already has IRS, and made it easier to engineer the battery pack in between the rails. It’s a different platform, electric skateboard chassis with F150 top Hat, SUB is just an extensi of the idea. Edited July 26, 2019 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 16 hours ago, jpd80 said: It’s a different platform, electric skateboard chassis with F150 top Hat Citation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 9:24 AM, twintornados said: I would say that GE locomotives are the best example of hybrid technology in the market today...been doing it for over two decades. Serial hybrid with no battery storage or regenerative breaking? (And no, dynamic breaking is not regenerative breaking). SO basic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Noah Harbinger said: Serial hybrid with no battery storage or regenerative breaking? (And no, dynamic breaking is not regenerative breaking). SO basic! Yeah, but can it pull a 1,000,000 lbs of F-150's? HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: Yeah, but can it pull a 1,000,000 lbs of F-150's? HRG Actually..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 37 minutes ago, Noah Harbinger said: Serial hybrid with no battery storage or regenerative breaking? (And no, dynamic breaking is not regenerative breaking). SO basic! Almost as basic as how to spell braking! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Harley Lover said: Citation? Ford has said publicly the EV F150 was on its own platform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, akirby said: Ford has said publicly the EV F150 was on its own platform. Correct, it has completely different chassis and layout for batteries and motor drives the great opportunity here is to apply existing top hats onto the EV base for massive cost saving.. Much easier to do that with BOF construction but I wonder if Rivian Platform is now answer for what to do with unitary Explorer as I suspect the BEV for Lincolns can't cover that. or could we see BOF construction make a "come back" of sorts in BEVs? I recon Ford and GM will sort all the production logistics out with BEVs and leave Tesla in their wake, well, insignificant and foundering over lack of funds and resources, how's that for a massive prediction.... Edited July 26, 2019 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Noah Harbinger said: Serial hybrid with no battery storage or regenerative breaking? (And no, dynamic breaking is not regenerative breaking). SO basic! The later GEs have a gen set and battery storage, a lot like an extended range BEV, batteries supply power for traction as needed and smaller engine just charges to batteries. Edited July 26, 2019 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 17 hours ago, Harley Lover said: Citation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, twintornados said: I was going to like this post, but I just can't bring myself to like a Citation. Edited July 27, 2019 by SoonerLS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, SoonerLS said: I was going to like this post, but I just can't bring myself to like a Citation. well, you can always laugh at it...lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfeg Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Notice they pull railcars - steel wheel on steel rail has about the lowest coefficient of rolling resistance, and railcars have good axle bearings to lower friction even more. Notice they did not pull a haul truck on rubber tires- much more drawbar pull required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 4 hours ago, lfeg said: Notice they pull railcars - steel wheel on steel rail has about the lowest coefficient of rolling resistance, and railcars have good axle bearings to lower friction even more. Notice they did not pull a haul truck on rubber tires- much more drawbar pull required. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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