snooter Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Its what you end up with when you put a furniture guy at the helm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 6 hours ago, silvrsvt said: My only concern is how good is the NVH going to be on the Bronco will all these removable doors/panels/whatnot. I don't want it sound like a change jar 5 years down the road Amen to that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Stampede.Offroad said: All the more reason the BOF Bronco should be offered with SFA. There's already a platform for people who just want the appearance and a comfy ride ... baby/Sport/Maverick/Adventurer/tellusthedamnnamealready. Just can’t let it go can you? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Stampede.Offroad said: All the more reason the BOF Bronco should be offered with SFA. There's already a platform for people who just want the appearance and a comfy ride ... baby/Sport/Maverick/Adventurer/tellusthedamnnamealready. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I really cant understand who ford decided to go after the mahindra roxor market with the baby bronc...they could have saved millions and just left it to kabota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Stampede.Offroad said: Had to spend all the money upgrading the suspension so there was nothing left in the budget to get a decent vehicle. But, STILL uni-body construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Stampede.Offroad said: All the more reason the BOF Bronco should be offered with SFA. There's already a platform for people who just want the appearance and a comfy ride ... baby/Sport/Maverick/Adventurer/tellusthedamnnamealready. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I feel like he technically has a good point though, in regards to differentiation with baby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailhiker Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 One thing for certain...so many people are paying attention to Bronco, that if it pleases half of them, it will sell like hotcakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Has anyone else noticed how PHAT... the new Bronco is? I don't recall seeing or noticing how wide the fender flare was on this thing... I wonder if they will all look like this or if it's a more hardcore edition. https://jalopnik.com/take-your-first-look-at-the-2020-ford-broncos-taillight-1841796317 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Have we figured out how the tailgate/rear...door? Is going to work? We know the doors remove, and the roof at least comes off in pieces, so I think we can rule out lift-gate. It doesn't look like a swing-out tire carrier, so I think it's mounted to the door... so swing? And if it is a swing gate.... might the rear window still be powered? It would be weird to open up the truck but still have the whole back just closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, probowler said: I feel like he technically has a good point though, in regards to differentiation with baby. You don’t need SFA to differentiate it. RWD body on frame, larger size and more power will differentiate it. And I’ll go on record as betting that a stock Bronco will be every bit as off road capable as a stock Wrangler but will be more comfortable as a daily driver. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, akirby said: And I’ll go on record as betting that a stock Bronco will be every bit as off road capable as a stock Wrangler but will be more comfortable as a daily driver. That is the exactly niche that Ford is going for with the Bronco. Couldn't say it better. The Ranger matched up fine vs the Gladiator without being specifically developed for off road use. The Bronco will get the extra attention for off road use. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, akirby said: You don’t need SFA to differentiate it. RWD body on frame, larger size and more power will differentiate it. And I’ll go on record as betting that a stock Bronco will be every bit as off road capable as a stock Wrangler but will be more comfortable as a daily driver. I would say that's it in a nutshell right there...……..Id also go out on a limb and state drivetrains will be a significant step up as well...and refinement... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, Deanh said: I would say that's it in a nutshell right there...……..Id also go out on a limb and state drivetrains will be a significant step up as well...and refinement... I don't think the word "refinement" has ever been applied to Wrangler. Other than maybe the lack thereof... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, silvrsvt said: That is the exactly niche that Ford is going for with the Bronco. Couldn't say it better. The Ranger matched up fine vs the Gladiator without being specifically developed for off road use. The Bronco will get the extra attention for off road use. Ranger has already shown us roughly what Bronco’s suspension will be like. Ranger was indeed developed as an off road 4x4 to compete directly with Global Hilux so it does have off road credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Well hopefully it's not TOO niche and ford sells the hell outta these bad boys! Ford should be in real good shape when you combine baby, Bronco, AND a proper US-oriented ranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, akirby said: You don’t need SFA to differentiate it. RWD body on frame, larger size and more power will differentiate it. And I’ll go on record as betting that a stock Bronco will be every bit as off road capable as a stock Wrangler but will be more comfortable as a daily driver. IFS may not be the best system for rock crawling but it will work very well for the the other 98% of off-road situations. My friends lifted wrangler has terrible road manners, and would not be enjoyable to me as a daily driver. I think that trade off is worth it if that is the route it’s going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, probowler said: Well hopefully it's not TOO niche and ford sells the hell outta these bad boys! Ford should be in real good shape when you combine baby, Bronco, AND a proper US-oriented ranger. Niche in terms of unique characteristics - not low volume. I expect MAP to be at capacity within 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, probowler said: Has anyone else noticed how PHAT... the new Bronco is? I don't recall seeing or noticing how wide the fender flare was on this thing... I wonder if they will all look like this or if it's a more hardcore edition. https://jalopnik.com/take-your-first-look-at-the-2020-ford-broncos-taillight-1841796317 That's a higher performance model - earlier mules had smaller fender flares: 3 hours ago, probowler said: Have we figured out how the tailgate/rear...door? Is going to work? We know the doors remove, and the roof at least comes off in pieces, so I think we can rule out lift-gate. It doesn't look like a swing-out tire carrier, so I think it's mounted to the door... so swing? And if it is a swing gate.... might the rear window still be powered? It would be weird to open up the truck but still have the whole back just closed. My guess is swing gate with roll down window. We've seen that the doors are frameless, there's no reason they couldn't do the same with the swing gate. Also, UAW documents confirmed a swing gate area at MAP. I'm trying to find the document, but having trouble locating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Also, UAW documents confirmed a swing gate area at MAP. I'm trying to find the document, but having trouble locating it. Swing gate means its folds down like the 5th gen or we talking EcoSport where the whole thing swings out to one side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: Swing gate means its folds down like the 5th gen or we talking EcoSport where the whole thing swings out to one side? Looks like it swings to the side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Also, UAW documents confirmed a swing gate area at MAP. I'm trying to find the document, but having trouble locating it. It's in the highlight book. I'll post it when I get home from the dentist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Opens up - liftgate opens down - tailgate opens to the side - swing gate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 35 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: Swing gate means its folds down like the 5th gen or we talking EcoSport where the whole thing swings out to one side? to the side - EcoSport is referenced as a swing gate. Everything else is liftgate or tailgate as akirby points out. 14 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: It's in the highlight book. I'll post it when I get home from the dentist. Thanks, I know it was posted here but I couldn't find the thread 2 minutes ago, akirby said: Opens up - liftgate opens down - tailgate opens to the side - swing gate this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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