silvrsvt Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, silvrsvt said: The Lightning is a very conventional looking truck. I'm guessing this will be less conventional looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, Havelock said: The Lightning is a very conventional looking truck. I'm guessing this will be less conventional looking. I'm guessing it will be more like the Silverado EV to compete better with the Cybertruck, when ever that comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 https://www.autoblog.com/2023/03/24/ford-next-gen-electric-pickup-truck-factory-progress/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000016&fbclid=IwAR1r5Rxy___5ewGMs1zzpSBhywZ8euXjWmKPYRamJhZVCS_nsZE0fVay__Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I think it will be a little different but I don’t expect it to stray too far from traditional Ford truck styling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 30 minutes ago, akirby said: I think it will be a little different but I don’t expect it to stray too far from traditional Ford truck styling. I'm thinking that it will be optimized to be a BEV, which might mean it might be a Unibody or an approach like that. Styling I don't expect anything super drastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, silvrsvt said: I'm thinking that it will be optimized to be a BEV, which might mean it might be a Unibody or an approach like that. Styling I don't expect anything super drastic Definitely unibody with a frunk but smaller and sleeker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, silvrsvt said: I'm thinking that it will be optimized to be a BEV, which might mean it might be a Unibody or an approach like that. Styling I don't expect anything super drastic I don’t think it will be unibody as I’m sure they’re still going to want to market it to be able to do truck stuff. If anything I think it will be a skateboard type chassis similar to the Silverado EV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 39 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I don’t think it will be unibody as I’m sure they’re still going to want to market it to be able to do truck stuff. If anything I think it will be a skateboard type chassis similar to the Silverado EV. What GM says it is: “It is not a unibody and it is not a body-on-frame. We’ve designed a different type of architecture where we have a body that has a floor, but also, the Ultium battery structure is actually a good portion of the structure and those two are connected after the body exits the body shaft. So we’ve defined kind of a new category of vehicle that doesn’t have that traditional body-and-frame approach.” That is what I'd expect it to be 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) More info on BOC https://twitter.com/jimfarley98/status/1639280235337117698?s=20 Edited March 24, 2023 by silvrsvt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 Also from what was on twitter, this vehicle will be quite a bit different then the F-150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 Possible styling cues? https://www.motor1.com/news/658985/ford-new-electric-truck-possibly-glimpsed-blueovalcity-video/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) The thing to remember here is that Ford is trying to grow it EV truck business without immediately taking many customers away from ICE F Series sales because doing that undercuts the profit generator paying for all of this. So whatever the changes are to next Gen Lightning, it will be to attract more non-traditional truck buyers. Also offering a big point of differentiation / more mainstream styling compared to Cybertruck Edited March 24, 2023 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justins Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Haven't we already been told the next EV truck will be Ranger based? Would that not fit with Ranger being T6.2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick73 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 As pickup volume transitions from ICE to BEV, I wonder how Ford will make T3 sales add to F-150’s in order to remain most popular vehicle overall. Will it be completely different yet be called F-150 Lightning? Or F-150 “something”? I found it interesting that new truck was compared in video to Millennium Falcon with a porch. Maybe Ford Falcon Ranchero will make a comeback. Or likely not. I’m no Star Wars expert, but wasn’t the Millennium Falcon a bucket of bolts? In the end it always delivered, but not without its share of problems and drama. Just found that reference amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, justins said: Haven't we already been told the next EV truck will be Ranger based? Would that not fit with Ranger being T6.2? If This is still accurate the Ranger BEV isn’t due until 2029. It’s probably Gen2 Lightning or something equivalent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplorerDude Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: If This is still accurate the Ranger BEV isn’t due until 2029. It’s probably Gen2 Lightning or something equivalent. This right here. This is the Gen 2 Lightning / replacement / successor. Naming wise I’d say its something that comes along when Lightning strikes…. Design and styling wise, let’s just say it’s very aero, 97-03 F-150ish but goes even further. Millennium Falcon is a good way to emphasize its modern and futuristic look. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ExplorerDude said: This right here. This is the Gen 2 Lightning / replacement / successor. Naming wise I’d say its something that comes along when Lightning strikes…. Design and styling wise, let’s just say it’s very aero, 97-03 F-150ish but goes even further. Millennium Falcon is a good way to emphasize its modern and futuristic look. So in this vid, the part where the designer is standing next to the clay model, am I correct in assuming that's the side profile? Looks like the front end slopes down quite a bit, but in a way that looks less bulbous than the '97-03, and more sharp. Would look quite striking if that's the case. Hope it still looks good despite focusing on areo. https://youtu.be/iFb_LM57Gko Edited March 25, 2023 by DeluxeStang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 11 hours ago, ExplorerDude said: This right here. This is the Gen 2 Lightning / replacement / successor. Naming wise I’d say its something that comes along when Lightning strikes…. Design and styling wise, let’s just say it’s very aero, 97-03 F-150ish but goes even further. Millennium Falcon is a good way to emphasize its modern and futuristic look. All the opinionaters here should pay attention to this post; he knows of which he speaks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, jpd80 said: The thing to remember here is that Ford is trying to grow it EV truck business without immediately taking many customers away from ICE F Series sales because doing that undercuts the profit generator paying for all of this. Farley stated inferentially in the 'Fireside Chat' that the purpose of the additional production capacity for EVs is not to maintain market share, but to grow market share. He's also indicated previously and again here that the product(s) from BOC will be quite different from the current Lightning. It all sounds like Farley intends to continue 'classic' Lightning production in Michigan (perhaps for Ford Pro) and plans to grow sales and market share with BOC. Ford will build ICE F Series as long as the market exists and the government allows. It follows that the added Lightning capacity coming later this year isn't planned for short term manufacturing, but planned for continued future output. Farley has also given hints about T3 styling with comments in the Fireside Chat about what Ford have learned about improving range with better aero, etc.. It's there to be read... and dovetails with ExplorerDude's comments. Edited March 25, 2023 by Harley Lover 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 12 hours ago, ExplorerDude said: This right here. This is the Gen 2 Lightning / replacement / successor. Naming wise I’d say its something that comes along when Lightning strikes…. Thunder or thunderbolt? Both names Ford has used in the past. what are they going to do with the subline they are using for the Lightning when this comes along? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, silvrsvt said: Thunder or thunderbolt? Both names Ford has used in the past. what are they going to do with the subline they are using for the Lightning when this comes along? Ford has already trademarked both F-150 Thunder and Maverick Thunder recently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, ExplorerDude said: This right here. This is the Gen 2 Lightning / replacement / successor. Naming wise I’d say its something that comes along when Lightning strikes…. Design and styling wise, let’s just say it’s very aero, 97-03 F-150ish but goes even further. Millennium Falcon is a good way to emphasize its modern and futuristic look. https://www.clickondetroit.com/business/2023/03/24/fords-tenn-plant-could-make-500k-electric-pickups-per-year/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=wdiv Jim Farley said the same thing: Quote The automaker said its second-generation electric truck is “code named Project T3,” and Ford CEO Jim Farley touted the truck's simplified design and high-quality technology. Ford did not release images of the new truck during the event, but it did display colorful drawings made by Tennessee schoolchildren with suggestions for its design — including some trucks that would fly. In a reference to the fast and tough Star Wars ship, Farley said the new truck “is going to be like the Millennium Falcon, with a back porch attached.” Edited March 25, 2023 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 It's hilarious to me that Farley is following Tesla's playbook page by page, down to a youtube live stream that starts way later than expected, and some still won't admit Tesla is driving all of this. But, great to see F making some more progress. Personally hope they don't go too far with the futuristic truck deal, I want a normal looking BEV Superduty sometime in the future.. not something that looks like the cybertruck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 43 minutes ago, Captainp4 said: It's hilarious to me that Farley is following Tesla's playbook page by page, down to a youtube live stream that starts way later than expected, and some still won't admit Tesla is driving all of this. But, great to see F making some more progress. Personally hope they don't go too far with the futuristic truck deal, I want a normal looking BEV Superduty sometime in the future.. not something that looks like the cybertruck. Tesla is definitely pulling the BEV train so to speak, you're absolutely correct about the "playbook" Captainp4. But as you noted Jim Farley and Ford are all aboard that train which is what really counts. Ford's name recognition with pickup trucks and its first mover advantage introducing F-150 Lightning quicker than other automakers are some serious advantages in the BEV pickup truck market. Timely introduction of T3 should bolster Ford's position amid upcoming competition from Tesla, GM, and Stellantis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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