joseodiaga4 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) All-new Lincoln Navigator makes global debut with bold, new design, reinvigorating interior The vehicle that created the premium full-size SUV category nearly three decades ago is elevating it once again. Lincoln’s flagship SUV – the all-new 2025 Navigator® – arrives with bold, new design, a reimagined interior, signature features and new connected experiences that will create the ultimate sanctuary for clients on and off the road. Navigator’s new interior combines premium materials with connected features like the Lincoln Digital Experience that comes to life through an immersive 48-inch panoramic display that spans the length of the horizontal instrument panel. Lincoln Rejuvenate is a “spa on wheels” that automatically adjusts seat position with heat and massage options, climate control, scenting, sound, lighting, and expansive visuals to reduce stress and create a relaxing experience inside the vehicle. more at: https://media.lincoln.com/content/lincolnmedia/lna/us/en/news/2024/08/15/all-new-lincoln-navigator-makes-global-debut.html Lincoln website: https://www.lincoln.com/luxury-suvs/navigator/2025/?intcmp=hp-bb-reveal-navigator Edited August 17 by joseodiaga4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70 Stang Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 16 minutes ago, joseodiaga4 said: https://media.lincoln.com/content/lincolnmedia/lna/us/en/news/2024/08/15/all-new-lincoln-navigator-makes-global-debut.html https://www.lincoln.com/luxury-suvs/navigator/2025/?intcmp=hp-bb-reveal-navigator Now that's quite the refresh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 https://media.lincoln.com/content/lincolnmedia/lna/us/en/news/2024/08/15/all-new-lincoln-navigator-makes-global-debut.html They added nice things, but of course they left out some features that the base would've wanted and claim they didn't lol. Doesn't seem like a full redesign so this may not move the needle in terms of sales much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 3 minutes ago, Dlcorbett said: https://media.lincoln.com/content/lincolnmedia/lna/us/en/news/2024/08/15/all-new-lincoln-navigator-makes-global-debut.html They added nice things, but of course they left out some features that the base would've wanted and claim they didn't lol. Doesn't seem like a full redesign so this may not move the needle in terms of sales much. I rest my case, New front, new rear and a completely new interior with the Panasonic display but that’s not enough. Sheez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTL2017 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 No hybrid is disappointing. Something this segment needed imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pffan1990 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I like it. Looks sharp!! Love the all-new interior with full-width dash screen. How can anyone not like the standard 28-speaker Revel 3D sound system? 😮 I also like the optional 24" wheels too. I'm sure the hybrid version is coming soon, likely sometime after initial production kicks off to make sure quality is up to par. But I'm excited about this update/redesign, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) This must be the Reserve without the Jet Package since it doesn’t have black accents. I like it too. Overall, I’m impressed! Edited August 16 by Ares 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Some absolutely awesome features added. The 2nd row power seats AND wireless charging for the 2nd row for example. I think the new BL themes are pretty good too. I do miss the optional blue interior though. The interior looks extremely expensive which is a good thing. However I am not seeing anything about air suspension added which IMO is a necessary for this segment. Even Infiniti added that to their QX80. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 My only bone to pick at is that the large "screen" is actually two screens. There is a break in the middle that would drive me nuts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTL2017 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 6 minutes ago, Andrew L said: Some absolutely awesome features added. The 2nd row power seats AND wireless charging for the 2nd row for example. I think the new BL themes are pretty good too. I do miss the optional blue interior though. The interior looks extremely expensive which is a good thing. However I am not seeing anything about air suspension added which IMO is a necessary for this segment. Even Infiniti added that to their QX80. Aviator is still the only ford product (I think) that has air suspension 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 8 minutes ago, Andrew L said: However I am not seeing anything about air suspension added which IMO is a necessary for this segment. Even Infiniti added that to their QX80. Hey, maybe for the mid-cycle refresh in 4 years. 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 37 minutes ago, JTL2017 said: No hybrid is disappointing. Something this segment needed imo. I'm guessing that there are packaging issues with trying to fit a battery into the current platform and/or cell capacity to make them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I dnt see air suspension, digital rearview mirror, hybrid, console cooler, digital augmentation, camera views, or window shades. It doesn't have a feature that will truly set it apart. Looking at videos, it's cargo space has gone down due to the lifted floor to accommodate the tail gate. That being said, it's still beautiful and luxurious, but it'll all be for nothing if it rides like crap. And they put 24s on it with no air ride? Maybe they were able to solve that, like genesis for the gv80. And they raises the entry price by dropping the Premier trim. There goes fleet sales. That'll open expy platty sales though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang84isu Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) I wish they would have added the integrated door handles that the Nautilus has and Continental had. They're more premium looking than traditional door handles, and it would have made the Navi look a bit sleeker. The front looks great, but I'm a little mixed about the new taillight bar / rear end. The execution feels a bit chunky, but it also feels like something that will grow on me over time once we see it on the road. The full-width screen doesn't integrate as well as the Nautilus. In the Nautilus, I like how it flows into the dash which then flows into the top of the door panels. Feels like they could have tried a bit harder. Overall, it's a good update and should help Lincoln cross back over the 100K US sales threshold. Edited August 16 by mustang84isu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted August 16 Author Share Posted August 16 (edited) It looks really good both exterior and interior BUT I have to admit I am pretty disappointed: - The maintain the 48in screen +11in screen combo. Didn’t we read reports that it was going to be bigger? The Escalade has a 55in so it isn’t going to make the same wow factor that the Nautilus got. - No air suspension although all the competition has it. - No digital rearview mirror - No augmented reality (the Escalade has it! The Nautilus for China also has it) - No night vision although the Escalade has been having since 2-3 generations ago - No 3d camera view - No hybrid - No window shades - All the competition seems to have grown in size but the Navi hasn't Good refresh but again there is no effort to throw it out of the park, they cannot seem to make a 100% effort, just a 80% one. Edited August 17 by joseodiaga4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted August 16 Author Share Posted August 16 4 hours ago, akirby said: I rest my case, New front, new rear and a completely new interior with the Panasonic display but that’s not enough. Sheez. I am sorry, and don't want to be disrespectful but…you’ve got to be kidding! Of course it is not going to be enough if you miss in some points that all the competition already has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 6 hours ago, joseodiaga4 said: .... - All the competition seems to have grown in size but the Navi seems hasn't How much bigger do you want it to be?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Bigger isn’t always better. GM is the market leader so of course they’re going to spend more. I think KTP is still capacity constrained so Ford spent the budget on the new interior which will help sales more than air suspension or digital rear view mirrors. Keep in mind there could be additional changes, especially powertrains, announced later. Order banks don’t open for a few months. Or they make changes next year. They are obviously somewhat constrained by budget and capacity and are content to keep sales where they are or slightly better. Could they have done more? Yes. They also could have done a lot less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 BTW - what is this obsession with digital rear view mirrors? It does nothing that 3 regular mirrors don’t already do. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted August 16 Author Share Posted August 16 25 minutes ago, twintornados said: How much bigger do you want it to be?? Just a bit, to better compete! you buy this vehicle for the space, and from what I have read it even has less cargo room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted August 16 Author Share Posted August 16 15 minutes ago, akirby said: BTW - what is this obsession with digital rear view mirrors? It does nothing that 3 regular mirrors don’t already do. if you have people on the 2nd or 3rd row it helps! All the competition have it....even Toyotas! 17 minutes ago, akirby said: Bigger isn’t always better. GM is the market leader so of course they’re going to spend more. I think KTP is still capacity constrained so Ford spent the budget on the new interior which will help sales more than air suspension or digital rear view mirrors. The interior looks nice, the problem is that the Escalade is similar in that regard and has a bigger screen (that now seems to capture the wow factor a lot, take the Nautilus as an example). Also, another problem is that the current gen already has a better interior vs the Escalade but the disadvantage was always the ride quality and in that regard the air suspensions helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) 41 minutes ago, akirby said: BTW - what is this obsession with digital rear view mirrors? It does nothing that 3 regular mirrors don’t already do. IMO they fucking suck-I saw one for the first time in a Santa Fe and the slight perceptible lag in it due to it being screen is fucking annoying. Find this whole dichotomy of tech in vehicles to be fascinating- I use my Santa Fe example again-it had all the "latest" tech stuff on it, but IMO it was almost distracting to operating the vehicle-yeah its nice to see what might be on the side of my vehicle making a turn, but its also distracting with all these screens changing just outside of my view that would draw my eye to them instead of the road in front of me. Then you have people who don't want thing or basically a retread of something from the 1970s that they think they can fix with a screw driver and bailing wire. Edited August 16 by silvrsvt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I think it looks great, I also like that they gave the second row more adjustable seats. That said, I'll agree that they need to be putting these other features into it that competitors have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Looks like the seat controls have moved either to the seat side or embedded within the infotainment system. Also, I noticed looks like Lincoln is finally getting some unique window switches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseodiaga4 Posted August 16 Author Share Posted August 16 (edited) Don't get me wrong, I like it, the exterior looks good and overall interior, nice materials..... but then again, there is so much in the competition........ heck, even the 48in screen doesn't seem to be that big In the Navi vs the Nautilus Edited August 16 by joseodiaga4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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