2025 Lincoln Navigator

[T-dubz]

1 hour ago, Willwll313wll said:

I rarely adjust the vents in my car. I think they realized that to be true for most people.

Wouldn’t that also be an argument against them then? If you rarely move them, why add the complexity of motors and software?

[02MustangGT]

14 minutes ago, T-dubz said:

Wouldn’t that also be an argument against them then? If you rarely move them, why add the complexity of motors and software?

My main concern with vent direction and other controls being exclusively implemented in the display is the single point of failure potentially impacting several important features.  

[akirby]

40 minutes ago, T-dubz said:

Wouldn’t that also be an argument against them then? If you rarely move them, why add the complexity of motors and software?

It does seem unnecessary, but being able to adjust the passenger side vents from the driver seat would be nice as well as tying vent position to seat memory.

[atomcat68]

My 2 cents are that they changed enough for the buyer to tell it's new, but kept enough the same to keep what's expected in a Navigator.

[joseodiaga4]

These are all the selections available:

 

Reserve

 

Reserve Jet appearance package

 

Black Label

 

Black Label special edition

This edition looks beautiful, How is it possible that we haven't seen it?

Edited August 17, 2024 by joseodiaga4

[Black Label]

I like what I see so far. I have never been able to get a great fell from pictures and videos. Look forward to seeing one in person.

[Andrew L]

2 hours ago, joseodiaga4 said:

These are all the selections available:

 

Reserve

 

Reserve Jet appearance package

 

Black Label

 

Black Label special edition

This edition looks beautiful, How is it possible that we haven't seen it?

 

I think I like the regular Black Label the best.

[joseodiaga4]

Btw there is a one new feature that we haven’t seen and there is not much info about: Turn signal view

 

Other new driver-assist features for Navigator include Turn Signal View, which projects a camera view of the adjacent lane on the 48-inch panoramic display when the turn signal is engaged

[Sherminator98]

19 minutes ago, joseodiaga4 said:

Btw there is a one new feature that we haven’t seen and there is not much info about: Turn signal view

 

Other new driver-assist features for Navigator include Turn Signal View, which projects a camera view of the adjacent lane on the 48-inch panoramic display when the turn signal is engaged

 

It does what it says-I found it rather distracting on a Santa Fe I was in that had it. 

[joseodiaga4]

6 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:

 

It does what it says-I found it rather distracting on a Santa Fe I was in that had it. 

I think what it does is clear, I was referring that there is no video or anything about it.

 

[akirby]

1 hour ago, joseodiaga4 said:

I think what it does is clear, I was referring that there is no video or anything about it.

 

Other mfrs have it and personally I don’t like it.  I can glance to my right and immediately see the orange light in the rear view mirror.  With a camera you have to interpret the video which takes a lot longer.

[tbone]

On 8/17/2024 at 11:37 AM, T-dubz said:

When it’s just me in the car yes, but I find myself adjusting them quite a bit with kids in the back on these 100+ degree days we’ve been having. Now, if they had a “memory” option like seats do, I could see that working quite well.

Maybe it’s just me, but my experience has never been set it and forget it even with the automated systems. I would never pass on these systems because I think they are very useful, but circumstances dictate the settings for me and it is not always the same.  It seems the automated vents seem a little more complex than need be, but I haven’t ever used anything like that so maybe not.  

[joseodiaga4]

I was checking at some articles and find this interesting:

 

You can have any engine you like as long as it’s a twin-turbo 3.5-liter V6 developing 440 horsepower and 510 lb-ft of torque, both of which are class-competitive. For now, at least, Lincoln won’t be offering a hybrid version of the Navigator. Apparently the company's customer research showed little appetite for any form of electrification.

All-wheel drive is standard and the suspension has been updated front and rear. The Navigator features electronic damping as standard in a bid to provide the level of ride comfort expected of such a road-trip-friendly machine. Lincoln’s engineers admit that they considered air suspension but opted against it, despite the technology being offered on the rival Cadillac Escalade. 

 

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2025-lincoln-navigator-debut-first-look.html?utm_campaign=feed&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=later-linkinbio

Edited August 18, 2024 by joseodiaga4

[akirby]

Electronic damping works well in other vehicles.  You just don’t get the adjustable height.  But the testers won’t get the soft ride benefit unless they specifically put it in comfort mode.

[akirby]

As for the hybrid comment - what else could they say?  We ran out of resources?

[Dlcorbett]

Another thing I realized, no more road preview.  Either it's baked in now or there truly was no benefit to it.

[Sherminator98]

2 hours ago, joseodiaga4 said:

All-wheel drive is standard and the suspension has been updated front and rear. The Navigator features electronic damping as standard in a bid to provide the level of ride comfort expected

 

I've heard horror stories about air suspension units failing after only a few years-a coworker of mine swapped his out of his GM that he had since someone makes a cheater kit that allows you to use standard shocks. 

 

It might be great on a 3500lb Sports car, but a 5000K+ SUV maybe not so much.  

[Dlcorbett]

5 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:

 

I've heard horror stories about air suspension units failing after only a few years-a coworker of mine swapped his out of his GM that he had since someone makes a cheater kit that allows you to use standard shocks. 

 

It might be great on a 3500lb Sports car, but a 5000K+ SUV maybe not so much.  

Ford had used air suspension on the expy and navi for almost 2 decades until they stopped in 2015.  The 1st 2 gens were notorious for failing, but only after years and 10s of thousands of miles.  The 3rd gens even less so.  My 09 nav had 175k before trading and the air suspension was flawless for the 75k miles I put on her.

[Sherminator98]

Just now, Dlcorbett said:

Ford had used air suspension on the expy and navi for almost 2 decades until they stopped in 2015.  The 1st 2 gens were notorious for failing, but only after years and 10s of thousands of miles.  The 3rd gens even less so.  My 09 nav had 175k before trading and the air suspension was flawless for the 75k miles I put on her.

 

My coworkers truck failed after 5 or 7 years...but then again it was GM product we are talking about here. 

[Dlcorbett]

How ppl do cars nowadays, it would only need to last 3 yrs lol.  Long term benefits of coils is better, but if lincoln wants ppl to buy the truck, air suspension would do wonders.  Also, with how bad the regular shocks were for the base expy when the 4th gens were released, I mean is it rele a benefit over the air springs.

[T-dubz]

On 8/18/2024 at 7:34 AM, joseodiaga4 said:

Btw there is a one new feature that we haven’t seen and there is not much info about: Turn signal view

 

Other new driver-assist features for Navigator include Turn Signal View, which projects a camera view of the adjacent lane on the 48-inch panoramic display when the turn signal is engaged

I’d like to see this in action. I have only seen this on Hyundai products and the video is shown in the cluster and is about the size of the speedometer. I’d be interested to see what it looks like on the 48” screen. It might make it a little more user friendly if the screen is larger and further away from you so you don’t have to look down.

[Happy european guy]

On 8/17/2024 at 6:22 PM, akirby said:

 

 

That is by far the most ridiculous comment yet.  440 hp, 510 lb/ft.  

2025 Cadillac Escalade: 420 HP

2025 Cadillac Escalade V: 682 HP

 

The top-of-the-line Navigator’s engine is weak compared with the top-of-the-line Escalade engine 

 

Facts.

Check it 

[Happy european guy]

On 8/17/2024 at 6:22 PM, akirby said:

 

 

That is by far the most ridiculous comment yet.  440 hp, 510 lb/ft.  

Why some guys is this page can insult others without consequences?  
Is my opinion. Can’t express it? 

[Sherminator98]

16 minutes ago, .I. said:

2025 Cadillac Escalade: 420 HP

2025 Cadillac Escalade V: 682 HP

 

The top-of-the-line Navigator’s engine is weak compared with the top-of-the-line Escalade engine 

 

 

and being a jackass about it doesn't win you any favors either...

And there is no equant V model in the Lincoln lineup

 

Facts.

Check it

 

 

[Dlcorbett]

26 minutes ago, .I. said:

2025 Cadillac Escalade: 420 HP

2025 Cadillac Escalade V: 682 HP

 

The top-of-the-line Navigator’s engine is weak compared with the top-of-the-line Escalade engine 

 

Facts.

Check it 

 

The escalade v isn't there volume trim, it's there niche trim.  People who want the v aren't checking for lincoln, they'd compare it to the alpina or the amg.

 

As much as ppl complain amd balk about not having the v8, the v6 has proven itself a better engine than the 6.2 v8.  To me, I dnt care if it sounds better, does it perform better?