Blobs are lovable.

I’d much prefer the blob look. 😀   May be aero but sharp edges and no rear window makes it too unconventional for my taste. 

It’s an improvement over the previous model

Hyundai really needs to hire a new designer. I liked the ioniq 5 when it came out, but not so much after seeing it in person. The ioniq 6 is the worst looking car I’ve seen in a while and this ioniq 9 takes the worst looking suv title. A simple focus group could have told them that.

Thanks, appreciate data.  Interesting yet not totally surprising.  We’ll see if volume holds or if that was just initial surge to a new product from Honda.  Passport is a bit low by comparison but a new 2026 is to be released in early 2025, which may explain low volume.  It’s also more expensive than larger Pilot so Motor Trend and others as example have recommended waiting.    I received an ad from Honda this morning for a Prologue and the cost confirms I would not seriously ever consider one.  Lease payment was super low which made it look attractive, but it was based on very high upfront investment.  After 3 years at 10,000/year, the SUV can be purchased for ~$25k.  That means 50% of initial price after only 30,000 miles?  I’ve never leased so not familiar with what’s normal, but that level of effective depreciation seems extremely high to me. If EVs can’t retain much higher percentage of MSRP, they are going to face tough competition from ICE for many years to come.   Anyway, Prologue energy efficiency is not great either, so real-world highway range will leave many disappointed if attempting road trips.  EPA hwy rating is under 3 miles per kWh, and I expect steady 70~75 MPH Interstate driving below that.  Range at Interstate speeds would be insufferable on long trips. 😣     

Whoa there - they started the skunkworks over 2 years ago well before the EV market changes.  Give them some credit.

The only reason that Ford is even talking about affordable EVs is because  its current plant with premium priced EVs is collapsing. Normally, Ford doesnt like to talk about products that are still a few years out but given the current market, it has to give investors, Wall Street and potential buyers  something to look forward to.   I would urge people not to get too excited over CE1 developed vehicles, we know that it’s basically aimed at small mid sized market for pickup, SUV and possibly a Van. It’s easy to get carried away and think that  Ford is developing all kinds of wonderful but the reality is that Ford has  already sunk billions into BOC  that maybe only builds a fraction of the anticipated  volume that Ford was planning on a few years ago…..    At least $11 Billion was ripped away from Ford Blue ICE project to help  with immediate funding of the massive BEV production infrastructure that was begun a couple of years ago, I think some of that will have  to be reversed given the current economic climate and Ford’s need  to improve quarterly profits.

In October 2024, Prologue outsold Passport and all Acura SUVs   CR-V 30,826 Pilot 11,927 HR-V 11,512 Prologue 4,130 MDX 3,904 RDX 3,719 Passport 2,549 ZDX 1,212

Welp...it isn't just a USA thing.....

Audi exists, but akirby makes a good point about Volkswagen and Audi being managed separately. 2025 Tiguan uses a different platform (MQB Evo) than its Audi counterpart, the Q5 (MLB Evo, PPC).   Audi Q3 also uses MQB Evo, but it's a lot smaller than Tiguan. Closest relative to 2025 Tiguan for U.S., which is actually second gen Tayron with the Tiguan badge, would probably be Skoda Kodiaq