Yeah I never got around to posting that Iveco deal a few weeks ago. Thanks 7M. I wish Farley/Ford had bought Iveco for $4 billion instead of going full tilt into the EV biz for $5-plus billion! How many points did I lose with that remark??!!!

They can’t automatically roll over.  Prices and options change.  Unfortunately 450 orders get slanted towards commercial/fleet accounts and don’t follow normal allocation/priority rules.

Curious how you rate the new Leaf to the 2023 Bolt in appearance, given they share similar MSRP.  In 2023 the Chevy Bolt, not known for its great looks AFAIK, was the best selling non-Tesla EV in USA, and it was smaller and had less range than the new Leaf S+.  Just wondering that unless buyers find the new Leaf much less attractive than Bolt, its sub $30k price may overcome average looks.   Also interesting regarding looks that the two best selling EVs in 2023, the Tesla Model Y and 3, do not seem to get a lot of praise for their styling, on this forum anyway.  Both Teslas are cheaper than their competitors though, so maybe price overrides appearance as long as the vehicle isn’t so ugly it’s embarrassing to own? 😀

For the love of God, in the interim, offer a hybrid in everything. 

This thing screams Carlos Tavares: Hybrid, expensive, "vegan leather" due to "environmental sensitivities", not particularly powerful...   Hopefully Antonio Filosa and his team launch products more aligned with North American consumer preferences without fatal flaws. Those elements that I Iisted above aren't without merit on their own, but Carlos Tavares and his team had a habit of combining them in an undesirable way (e.g. Dodge Hornet). 

At least Ford now has plenty of battery supply for more hybrids, PHEVs and any EREVs it wants to build.   Go back four or five years and Ford was telling anyone who would listen that having ICE and EV in one vehicle was heavy and a waste of resources vs BEV. Now they say, Mid Size BEVs are better and varying amounts of hybrid EV for future ICE vehicles…..interesting how Ford has come so far on it journey, so much of the false logic was due to the old rigid way its own engineering would approach vehicle development.   Thankfully, eyes are now opened.

With regards to next Gen BEV F150, Looking at the new universal electric platform, it now  feels like T3 BEV is redundant even before it arrives. Batteries and electrical systems will be used to upgrade current Lightning while Ford formulates a much better plan for next generation F Series, be that ICE, HEV, PHEV, EREV or BEV.   This has been a steep learning curve for Ford but better they get the basics right as an essential first step before trying to roll out profitable new products.

Only apply if you’re rich, entitled and most importantly, on Ford’s list of vetted buyers.

Ford has gone from co stained battery supply to an embarrassment of riches. This could be a good income stream for them and JV partners,

So I ordered a 2025 Ford F450 Super Duty in April, today they canceled my order. I ordered a 2026 last week just in case. So I called my dealer today waiting for an update from his conversation with the Regional Manager. Also waiting for someone from Ford to call me back. I have been searching for contacts to call next week!!! This is BS. orders should roll over to the next year automatically !!