So last Saturday a page I follow called Lincoln Addict posted about the 8th Annual Lincoln Kennedy Blvd Cruise in Tampa, FL.  He posted that it was open to all Lincolns and we would be a parade of Lincolns stopping at several locations and taking lots of photos then ending in Ybor City to grab lunch at the Colombia restaurant.  I used to be part of a large car group the TCCA (Taurus Car Club of America) and used to go to meets all the time, when I had my Mercury Sable.  After my Sable I had a Lincoln LS and joined the LLSOC (Lincoln Luxury Sport Owners Club) but by the time I joined I think the group was on it's last wind and never was part of any meetup sadly, I know some members are on this forum now a shame we never got together when I had my LS.  Since then I joined other Lincoln groups but never was able to be part of any meet so for me this was an opportunity to get back into it.  I reached out and asked if I could join with my MKZ and was told absolutely that it was open to any and all Lincoln vehicles.  I got to work cleaning my MKZ and making it spotless and headed out.  We had a great turnout about 30 cars total ranging from the oldest a 1940 V12 Zephyr to a 2018 Continental Reserve, in between a 50s Continental, lots of 60s Continentals, 70s Town Coupe, 90s Mark VIIIs, and my BL MKZ.  Everyone was very welcoming, nice, and talkative about their cars.  I even had a few check my car out and ask me questions about it.  Most of them complimented the color (Chroma Cabernet) and the huge sunroof.  I also had a few ask about the engine and they had no idea Lincoln even offered the 3.0TT in the MKZ and were really impressed with the power, one of the Mark VIII guys said to me "oh forget it you will blow my doors off that's almost too much power for me".   It was an awesome time and I 100% plan on doing it again next year.  I told some of the folks there that my mom called me to finalize plans for Thanksgiving and asked if I had plans that weekend, I told her I was doing this, and she asked which car I was driving in the parade.... seriously???? everyone got a good laugh at out of that and one of the wives told me next year I better show up in the 04 Aviator 🤣   Of course if anyone is in FL and owns a Lincoln you all should join up next year it's a great group of people and great group of cars.  We even had someone drive down from Ohio with the 61 teal Continental, though I think they had it on a flat bed.  I believe they do this every year on the anniversary of the JFK Assassination but I think it's also the anniversary of JFK visiting Tampa too maybe?  I know that was brought up during the ride when we stopped at UT to do a picture in front of the JFK statue.    

Both valid points. A proper flagship would really elevate the brand, but would take longer to develop. Bringing something like the zephyr to the US market is something that could be done quickly, and in a relatively cost efficient manner, but wouldn't have as much impact.    A Lincoln flagship should be the kind of car with insane jaw dropping proportions, never level tech, and the kind of street presence so vibrant it can be seen from space. The navigator is an incredible product, just never level. But if the goal is to elevate the brand, and take it's perception to the next level, a halo sedan, or even coupe would be a welcome addition. There's just something about the sex appeal of a sports coupe or evocative sedan that really boosts the brand's overall perception. 

So far I'm putting Inifiniti on "Death-watch" this year...they will only have 2 vehicle in their line-up. The Q60 and Q80...

That's what I thought he meant, but the sentence as typed contradicted itself lol.

hideous blob is an exaggeration.   I agree that a "proper" sedan with great presence would be ideal.  Just that the "low hanging fruit" option is there as a bandaid.

Yea, I get what both of you are sayin', there's always goin' to be some tension between dealers and the mother ship. But the two parties should try to find common ground much more than they have.   The big shots at Ford can start by providing North American Lincoln dealers multiple new EV models. Ideally somethin' like what brucelinc and I mentioned earlier: vehicles with expressive road presence, strong power, new names, and suicide doors. They don't have to be sedans, but if they are, they better stand out

The issue is that l100 sedan is uglier than the zephyr. The sketches were really good, I've shown them here before, you can find them on Google if you search for Lincoln L100 design sketches. But something just got lost in translation.    The sketches showed something with really elegant properties with a long, powerful hood, good lines, and nice surfacing. The actual concept they decided to give it this stubby hood, and chopped roof look which looks like ass imo. If Ford made a new sedan, those sketches would be a good source of inspiration, the actual concept, less so. 

The way I see it, they can't afford not to invest in a new platform long term if what we've heard about D2 is accurate in terms of how rigid it's flexibility and packaging is. 

Yeah, I agree, probably just a missing comma. 

Yea, exactly. To do it right, any new Lincoln sedan for North America needs everything you said, it must be an EV, and must have suicide doors. China can keep commodity "toasters on wheels" unibody sedans like Mondeo and Lincoln Z. Don't send that shit to North America.