I suspect F Series and Medium/Heavy will rebound with fleet timing, although that is a steep drop for F's. I also think Ranger will still thrive when the UEV pickup comes out. If anything, It will canibalize Maverick.    Hopefully, the March and Quarterlies will have more green cells

Dealership perspective here. OK, destination & delivery fee is part of the new vehicle window sticker. That one is part of how the manufacturers are managing MSRP without "moving the vehicle price". I just went back through some of the pricing guides, because the F-150 was on my mind recently. A couple samples: 2016: $1195 2018: $1495 2020: $1695 2024: $1995 2025: $2595 2026: $2595 The other fee in discussion is the "Dealer Service Fee", also known as "Document Fee", "Doc Fee" or "BS I'm Not Paying That Take It Off There Fee". In some states it's regulated, so when the state says "a dealer's document fee cannot exceed $999", the dealers will set their Doc Fee at $999. I keep an eye on other dealer's Doc Fees near me. Ours is $299. Most are $349, some are as much as $499. That money isn't just a profit center, it helps absorb some of the fees and expenses every dealer would otherwise just absorb. All the forms we're required to use (and purchase) cost the dealership. There's access and maintenance fees to connect to the state title and registration systems. It's obscene what it costs to operate even a small dealership. Until some of that became part of my department's budget/expense, I had no idea. On the sales floor, I thought the Doc Fee was just something that was added to pad the boss' pocket. Our $299 doesn't cover the expense per car of doing the unshown business. Now, that said, there's the addendum things, what the dealer would call "hard adds". Paint and fabric protection packages already applied to the vehicle - that one's pretty common on something sitting in the showroom, or a Courtesy Transport vehicle. Nitrogen filled tires. Wheel lock kits on every vehicle. Passive anti-theft, or "etch". Window tint already applied - I think I saw that on a southern vehicle as a "climate package". Those are more on the shady side, big-time profit centers that are supposed to be optional. If the dealer has already added it to the vehicle, they're not likely to take it off. If they somehow do, you've spent your negotiation capital on getting that taken off.

Yeah, that's the calculation I did.  Not a chance they'd have been able to price it anywhere near that figure here.     Yeah, they launched it and forgot it.   I know its styling was polarizing, but it really was a great car.

My Super Duty will do about 650 miles in those conditions.  And it'll haul more people than that thing...you can stack them pretty high in the bed.

The Flex got minimal effort from Ford's advertising/promotion departments, which was ridiculous: available AWD, massive interior, good (and brand common) powertrains, and huge interior volume coupled with low lift-in height. Mine was magnificent in its time, dragging my guitar and PA gear around as well as 2-5 people.

Using the UK pricing, they are $35K after conversion 

Nor could you afford all the dramamine....   😎

I didn't realize they were so pricey over there.....

Buick GL8 Set Guinness World Record In Driving Range Test    

Some interesting tibits in that interview. In other parts, he seems to hint at a Corolla/Civic rival, but using their affordable EV platform.