Do you think we'll even get a second generation mach-e at this point in time?

Meanwhile......   https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/28/dozens-of-unsold-tesla-cybertrucks-are-piling-up-at-detroit-parking-lot/

Since the last minute delay/cancellation of GE2, a lot of the upgrades planned for Mach E have changed a bit as Ford scrambles to find the best fit of motors batteries and controllers to keep prices under control. Mach E having a coupe twin now seems so hard because it’s been too long (2018 when EMax changed) but Ford was lucky that Mach E was seen as a competitor   to Tesla Y but BEV interest is a bit subdued ATM

Yes, the BYD Sealion 6 is a good package which means that anything seen as less value will struggle. I think Territory would work in Australia but understand that it would be fighting against established competition as well as newer Chinese brands. Ford needs a hybrid utility to go up against RAV4 which is romping away with sales.

True, but it's not working. If it's not gonna work as an edge replacement, I just say lean even harder into the idea of a muscle car utility. Believe it or not, a lot of mustang owners kinda like how the mach-e looks, they just don't believe it should wear the mustang pony. Making it even more muscle car like would win some of those people over imo. I'd love a sharper, meaner design with more muscular surfacing.    I'd love a mach-e front end with this lighting, and a less bulbous looking grille cutout. 

Interesting info….making it lower will only make it even less of an Edge replacement as people have tried to pass it off as.

Eh I think despite its drawbacks, it still has enough “look at me” buyers that will be drawn to it.  The bigger question is long term sales depth

it’s a patent rendering.  So sure, we don’t get the full story of actual shadows, look, etc, we get the basic idea of it. i agree that I’ve never really been a fan of the original FJ’s design either, but they could’ve done better. also, while I like the current Bronco better, I always liked that 2003 concept and actually still think it looks pretty good.   agreed.  The rest is maybe ok/could look better in real life/real photos, but that c-pillar is too weighty. ive come to like the new Land Cruiser/GX design, so they can do something good looking, but this is a big miss

I think Ford targeted the markets that needed more affordable models right away. In the Philippines (one of the Territory's strong markets) the PHEV BYD Sealion 6 is gaining market share and Ford's Territory sales are down. Coincidence? They have similar pricing. Electrified vs traditional ICE.   

It is somewhat surprising the CT is outselling the Lightning since its the newest and has polarizing styling.