silvrsvt Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Twin Turbo Coyote 5L with over 500HP! Oh spy photos of the Cycote in the F-150 too http://jalopnik.com/5371271/next+gen-shelb...ne=true&s=x http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/09/spied...-ford-f150.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Look for a twin-turbo 5.0-liter V-8, code-named "Road Runner," with well over 500-horsepower to debut first in the Mustang GT500 in 2012 and possibly, in F-150 Harley-Davidson edition pickups. Decisions, decisions... A 6.2 F150 Raptor SuperCrew or a 5.0TT F150 Harley SuperCrew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoMoCobra Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Interesting, a Twin Turbo 5.0L V8 for the Shelby. Now that sounds awesome and possible: 3.7L V6 Standard, about 270hp 5.0L V8 for the GT at 400hp 5.0L TT for the Shelby at about 550hp(my guestimate) The TT5.0 should be a pretty decent motor to go up against the now-back-on-schedule 550hp Z/28. The 5.0 will probably drop the weight of the GT500 to about 3700-3800 lbs. right about where the camaro is I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Testers with the 5.0 EB have been making 600 hp and 620 torque. GM: " " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Testers with the 5.0 EB have been making 600 hp and 620 torque. GM: " " my thoughts eggs zackery....if they are making 365 from a STRANGLED 3.5 in the SHO, the SAME engine hitting 500 plus on the bench, that equates to 142 hp per litre.........5.0 142 = 710..........dial down for durabilty 600 EASY! now, time to find a transmission... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Hell even GN from the 1980s' could put out 600-700 HP out of them, but um not quite for Street usage I'd say a TT 5L could put out over 1K HP in drag form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevys Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Its being reported at the mustang source this is inaccurate. The TT5.0 wont happen. They are a reliable source as the Pickup truck dot com guy but are Mustang specific so I would tend to take their word for it right now. Just passing it along and dont shoot the messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Its being reported at the mustang source this is inaccurate. The TT5.0 wont happen. They are a reliable source as the Pickup truck dot com guy but are Mustang specific so I would tend to take their word for it right now. Just passing it along and dont shoot the messenger. I'm not armed...THIS TIME.....snicker! ( never gets old ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Its being reported at the mustang source this is inaccurate. The TT5.0 wont happen. They are a reliable source as the Pickup truck dot com guy but are Mustang specific so I would tend to take their word for it right now. Just passing it along and dont shoot the messenger. interesting counter though...why would they continue building the 5.4 in ANY iteration when its being put to pasture and replaced by the 5.0?...my guess is it WILL happen....5.4 is going away.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 interesting counter though...why would they continue building the 5.4 in ANY iteration when its being put to pasture and replaced by the 5.0?...my guess is it WILL happen....5.4 is going away.... Not sure what Ford is thinking here but since panther and E Series are until at least 2011, I'm thinking that the 4.6 2v and 5.4 2v may stay a while unless they forward build and stockpile like the v6 Cologne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevys Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I'm not armed...THIS TIME.....snicker! ( never gets old ) You can never be too careful around here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Not sure what Ford is thinking here but since panther and E Series are until at least 2011, I'm thinking that the 4.6 2v and 5.4 2v may stay a while unless they forward build and stockpile like the v6 Cologne. irrespective, they will leak exciting news only to have us salivate for 3 years and end up actually getting the product with a severe case of cotton mouth...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) Decisions, decisions... A 6.2 F150 Raptor SuperCrew or a 5.0TT F150 Harley SuperCrew? Isn't it great, but at the same time frustrating, to have to make such decisions? Ford's making it hard to decide what to get with all of it's new vehicles.....I want one of each LOL. my thoughts eggs zackery....if they are making 365 from a STRANGLED 3.5 in the SHO, the SAME engine hitting 500 plus on the bench, that equates to 142 hp per litre.........5.0 142 = 710..........dial down for durabilty 600 EASY! now, time to find a transmission... Well, the current one has 540-hp too, so I'd think the new one will increase from that... interesting counter though...why would they continue building the 5.4 in ANY iteration when its being put to pasture and replaced by the 5.0?...my guess is it WILL happen....5.4 is going away.... Well, I guess theoretically, they could also supercharge the 5.0.....but that wouldn't fit in with the EcoBoost strategy. My only other thought is maybe they're keeping the 4.6/5.4 around until 2011 because think about it: --with Panther, they're not gonna invest into that at all --with Econoline, if it's being replaced by Transit (or whatever in the world is happening with it), would they invest to throw the 5.0 in it if they're completely switching the Econoline in a few short years anyway? Edited October 1, 2009 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) I think for packaging, you'll find that the supercharge option will win over twin turbos and Ford won't be interested in DI either. Making another 150 hp over 400 hp isn't that monumental if you start with the right building blocks in the first place. I doubt that you'll see any V8 Ecoboost in F trucks anytime soon, I think the 6.7 diesel was more effective and desirable but still feel that the 4.4 V8 diesel has more chance of production than an EB V8. Just my 2 cents.... Edited October 1, 2009 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I would hope the GT500 gets a hypo version of the Coyote engine or maybe even the 6.2L Boss. I think most people consider the GT500 as the top of the line Mustang (duh). Why would they continue using the old tech 5.4L (aluminum block or not) in the GT500 when the lowly GT gets the new 5.0L? Seems bass ackwards to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizco Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I think for packaging, you'll find that the supercharge option will win over twin turbosand Ford won't be interested in DI either. Making another 150 hp over 400 hp isn't that monumental if you start with the right building blocks in the first place. Just my 2 cents.... On the other hand, turbos usually return better fuel economy than superchargers. With new F/E regs most likely on the way, Ford is probably going with the TTV8 architecture so they can tune to get the fuel mileage they need. ...maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang let back Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 i think there will be no twin turbo mustang.the GT500 will get the aluminum block 5.4 or the 6.2.this might sound crazy but,a gt,with 400hp,then the BOSS twin turbo with the 550hp,and the GT500 with over 600hp.regardless of how it comes,the mustang will remain KING over the SCRAPMARO!! :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhm5 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I don't understand why the Mustang still sports a solid rear axle. Is Ford using a SRA is the same reason that Corvettes still use a pushrod V8: terrified of innovation in their "icon" model? Or are Mustang buyers more interested in budget straight-line performance than handling & ride-quality, and view the SRA as a feature? Or do the accountants get their way every year? FYI: When you consider the vast majority of the Mustangs that will be sold to the American car buying public will be the wimpy V-6s, not GTs or Cobras, and won't be going to the drag strip, why the SRA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) All I have to say is Mustang SRA vs. Camaro IRS. Edited October 1, 2009 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbmphil Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 God DAMMIT, not you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I don't understand why the Mustang still sports a solid rear axle. Is Ford using a SRA is the same reason that Corvettes still use a pushrod V8: terrified of innovation in their "icon" model? Or are Mustang buyers more interested in budget straight-line performance than handling & ride-quality, and view the SRA as a feature? Or do the accountants get their way every year? FYI: When you consider the vast majority of the Mustangs that will be sold to the American car buying public will be the wimpy V-6s, not GTs or Cobras, and won't be going to the drag strip, why the SRA? and you were doing SOOOO well this week! as was mentioned before.... the Mustang handles better than the IRS equipped Camaro and Challenger. I dont see the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Testers with the 5.0 EB have been making 600 hp and 620 torque. No one ever said the Shelby would be EcoBoost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 God DAMMIT, not you. I hope you're not talking about me..... and you were doing SOOOO well this week! as was mentioned before.... the Mustang handles better than the IRS equipped Camaro and Challenger. I dont see the problem. He was too... No one ever said the Shelby would be EcoBoost. But did anyone ever say it wouldn't be? And maybe they call it TwinForce in a GT500? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme4x4 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) Supposedly, the TT5.0 is ready, if necessary. Oh, for he who does not know the weights of cars. Current Mustang GT: 3550-3650 2011 Mustang GT: 3550-3650 (rumored) V6 Camaro: 3700 Camaro SS: 3820 2010 GT500: 3920 2011 GT500: 3720 (rumored) 2011/12 Camaro Z28: 4100 (rumored) To Ml.............. please. Lets see, we could get an IRS and be overweight, like the Camaro and Challenger, handle worse, and cost more. Oh goody. :rolleyes: Edited October 1, 2009 by Extreme4x4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 When you consider the vast majority of the Mustangs that will be sold to the American car buying public will be the wimpy V-6s, not GTs or Cobras, and won't be going to the drag strip, why the SRA? When you consider the vast majority of the Mustangs that will be sold to the American car buying public will be the wimpy V-6s, not GTs or Cobras, and won't be driven at 11/10ths on mountain roads, why pine for IRS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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