MY93SHO Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I believe Lincoln marketing is avoiding the 'EcoBoost' name for their engines. Probably doesn't mean anything in China, cheaper to leave it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I believe Lincoln marketing is avoiding the 'EcoBoost' name for their engines. ^^^ This. What's interesting is there's no ecoboost badges or labels in the marketing or on the outside of the car, but on the engine cover for the 2.7 it says 2.7 Ecoboost. Same with the 3.0. Yet on the badging on the back it says 2.7T and 3.0T. Curious. Hmmm, I was about to say that I bet those engine covers will change to eliminate the EcoBoost name by the time it hits production, but I would have thought that would have not even been there on the 3.0. Maybe Ford decided it wasn't worth making a separate engine cover for Lincoln, since 99.9% of owners will never open the hood. Which really makes you wonder, what's the first Ford vehicle to get the 3.0T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucelinc Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Maybe Ford decided it wasn't worth making a separate engine cover for Lincoln, since 99.9% of owners will never open the hood. I will gladly represent the other one tenth of one per cent! Can't wait to get my hands on the Continental, get it tuned and take it to the track! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 C-segment Lincoln is coming... there is no doubt about that. But it's a few more years away. Lincoln will need to address the price gap between MKZ and Continental now. Lincoln recently dais that it does not plan to go below MKZ/MKC in price. I Think to me that implies either no C-segment car, or Mustang-based performance C-segment car (based on Mustang) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Lincoln recently dais that it does not plan to go below MKZ/MKC in price. I Think to me that implies either no C-segment car, or Mustang-based performance C-segment car (based on Mustang) Why wouldn't the Mustang based Couple cost around the same price (if not more) then the MKZ/C? IMO my dream is either a Ford or even Lincoln sedan based on the Mustang with a decent interior space... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 C-segment Lincoln is coming... there is no doubt about that. But it's a few more years away. Lincoln will need to address the price gap between MKZ and Continental now...C segment = STARstang (née LincStang)tho don't think there's a Z/Conti pricing problem 2017my will already have more than a $10k overlap (tho *do* agree there's room for something in between - maybe come cD6) Lincoln recently said that it does not plan to go below MKZ/MKC in price. I Think to me that implies either no C-segment car, or Mustang-based performance C-segment car (based on Mustang) Why wouldn't the Mustang based Couple cost around the same price (if not more) then the MKZ/C? IMO my dream is either a Ford or even Lincoln sedan based on the Mustang with a decent interior space... I don't see any disagreementSTARstang, even the PLUG-IN or BEV variants, oughta be about equal to (starting just slightly higher than) the 2017 Continental Ok this makes more sense... 3.7 V6 instead of 2.3 EB as base engine. Base engine (probably less than 5% retail mix) - 3.7 V6 ~$45k starting MSRP Main engine (probably 60~70% of retail mix) - 2.7 EB ~$50k FWD / ~$55k AWD Top engine (probably 25~35% of retail mix) - 3.0 EB ~ $60k AWD Black label will probably be restricted to 3.0 EB ~$65k starting MSRP imho 3.7 and 3.0T are all the engines Conti needs in the U.S...made a new price chart "elsewhere" same 3.0T-Fwd as MKZ starts ~$53k; 400+hp 3.0T-Awd with torque-vectoring Std starts ~$56k; [bL] gets all 4 drivetrains = ~$60 / 62 / 64 / 67k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 MKR please...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 MKR please...................... Just for the love of all things holy call it something else..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBirdStangSkyliner Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Just for the love of all things holy call it something else..... They could just spell it fully out to "Merkur". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 They could just spell it fully out to "Merkur". NO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 How about they add a fourth letter? MKRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 How about they add a fourth letter? MKRY Again, NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Just for the love of all things holy call it something else..... I thought Robert mentioned Mk IX and that didn't sound like a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I thought Robert mentioned Mk IX and that didn't sound like a guess. And that would be just fine. MKR just sounds ridiculous. At least there's a history there in calling it Mk IX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 imho 3.7 and 3.0T are all the engines Conti needs in the U.S ...made a new price chart "elsewhere" same 3.0T-Fwd as MKZ starts ~$53k; 400+hp 3.0T-Awd with torque-vectoring Std starts ~$56k; [bL] gets all 4 drivetrains = ~$60 / 62 / 64 / 67k Except Ford already confirmed the powertrain choices. There won't be 3.0T FWD. 3.7 V6 FWD 3.7 V6 AWD 2.7 EB FWD 2.7 EB AWD 3.0 EB AWD MKS starts at $40k now but I expect Conti to move up the price entry point so $45k sounds about right. I also think the 3.7 V6 will be kept to a minimum for retail inventory mix. 2.7 EB will be the main retail version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) yeah, I saw articles claiming the 2.7T but also other(s) that FoMoCo has not declared anything but the 3.0T yet + the Fwd 3.0T *has* been confirmed for the MKZ so... Edited January 15, 2016 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 + the Fwd 3.0T *has* been confirmed for the MKZ Where was that confirmed? I seriously doubt it will be available with FWD. The 2.7T is AWD only in the Edge and the Fusion Sport and the 3.0T is AWD only in the Conti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 Where was that confirmed? I seriously doubt it will be available with FWD. The 2.7T is AWD only in the Edge and the Fusion Sport and the 3.0T is AWD only in the Conti. They said it when they showed off the car that the MKZ would be available with the 3.0T in FWD and AWD. But FWD models will be reduced to 350-hp/torque. The AWD models will have 400-hp/torque. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 They said it when they showed off the car that the MKZ would be available with the 3.0T in FWD and AWD. But FWD models will be reduced to 350-hp/torque. The AWD models will have 400-hp/torque. I do seem to remember that now that you mention it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 haven't (re)found FoMoCo saying it but MotorAuthority C&D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 https://media.lincoln.com/content/lincolnmedia/lna/us/en/2017-lincoln-mkz.html ..."3.0-liter GTDI V6 engine in front-wheel drive models is limited to 350 horsepower and 400 lb.-ft. of torque"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 The 6F55 tops out at 400ft lbs...wonder if the new 9 speed will improve upon that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I wonder if the new door pull handles will become a new Lincoln styling cue for upcoming products. Doesn't seem like it would be hard to do, but would require new door skins, but we are trying to make Lincoln different right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman351 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Went to the auto show today. People seemed to like this car a lot. My friend who likes car but is not as into them as I thinks the Licoln looks a lot better than the CT6. Also I am not a big fan of the white. The greyish colored one looks even better to me. This car definitely looks better in darker colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 If this doesn't take Lincoln to the next level, nothing will.... Fantastic vehicle! Can't wait to see the rest of the lineup evolve to this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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