T-dubz Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 someone made a render of a raptor sport. The body colored rear pillar looks pretty good. It’d be nice to see that as an option on the trims that have a body colored roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K270 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/8/2020 at 3:27 PM, MY93SHO said: Moab. I guess we know know where those three black broncos and jeep were headed from the video posted a few days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 More Moab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Even more Moab. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 https://www.broncosportforum.com/forum/threads/video-bronco-sport-crawls-44-degree-incline-at-moab.1179/ Bronco Sport on the rocks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, MY93SHO said: https://www.broncosportforum.com/forum/threads/video-bronco-sport-crawls-44-degree-incline-at-moab.1179/ Bronco Sport on the rocks. That's damn impressive. That should put an end to the people who say the Sport is nothing more than an escape with a different top hat, but it won't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavien Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 46 minutes ago, MY93SHO said: Even more Moab. Finally a head to head video. Of course the Jeep guys will say it wasn't fair for reasons x,y, and z, but really this is all just for fun. Both Jeep and Bronco are going to be plenty capable for 95% of people out of the box. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavien Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, MY93SHO said: https://www.broncosportforum.com/forum/threads/video-bronco-sport-crawls-44-degree-incline-at-moab.1179/ Bronco Sport on the rocks. Now that's unexpected and impressive! The Sport is going to sell better than most people expect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Lavien said: Now that's unexpected and impressive! The Sport is going to sell better than most people expect. I agree. For me to be a buyer though, it still needs some work on the interior, needs the 2.0 available in other trims besides badlands, and needs better wheel selections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictor Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, T-dubz said: I agree. For me to be a buyer though, it still needs some work on the interior, needs the 2.0 available in other trims besides badlands, and needs better wheel selections. and better towing, at least equal to Escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, pictor said: and better towing, at least equal to Escape. I think Ford is sandbagging on the towing capacity on both Bronco and sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, akirby said: I think Ford is sandbagging on the towing capacity on both Bronco and sport. Sandbagging, as in will release better numbers closer to job 1 or just keeping the numbers lower to protect themselves (knowing that it can tow more safely)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Lavien said: Finally a head to head video. Of course the Jeep guys will say it wasn't fair for reasons x,y, and z, but really this is all just for fun. Both Jeep and Bronco are going to be plenty capable for 95% of people out of the box. Well, remember who produced the video too. If there were areas the Jeep did better, they are certainly not going to highlight it. I'm looking forward to the reviewers getting them out there together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, jcartwright99 said: Sandbagging, as in will release better numbers closer to job 1 or just keeping the numbers lower to protect themselves (knowing that it can tow more safely)? Better numbers at job 1 either by just revising the numbers or offering a separate tow pkg with higher limits. Based on the underlying platforms it seems it should be higher although the off road tires and suspension make an impact too. I think there will be other things that they haven't revealed yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, akirby said: Better numbers at job 1 either by just revising the numbers or offering a separate tow pkg with higher limits. Based on the underlying platforms it seems it should be higher although the off road tires and suspension make an impact too. I think there will be other things that they haven't revealed yet. As I mentioned earlier, towing is not the purpose for Bronco. It can do it but if you need a serious tow vehicle, that's what F-series is for. Maybe Expedition if you need a 3rd row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: As I mentioned earlier, towing is not the purpose for Bronco. It can do it but if you need a serious tow vehicle, that's what F-series is for. Maybe Expedition if you need a 3rd row. When Ranger does 7k and Explorer does 5K, 3500 is low. Not a deal breaker for most but again seems too low by comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I feel like it should be able to at least tow it's own weight. an off-road 4x4 like the bronco should also be able to tow a small camping trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, probowler said: I feel like it should be able to at least tow it's own weight. an off-road 4x4 like the bronco should also be able to tow a small camping trailer. Fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, probowler said: I feel like it should be able to at least tow it's own weight. an off-road 4x4 like the bronco should also be able to tow a small camping trailer. I don't see a problem. The very largest popup campers, with side pull outs come in at just about 3500lbs. The largest off-road, lifted versions of popups are lighter yet 3000- 3300lbs. A nice mid-sized modern popup, standard or off- road, can easily be <3000lbs with everything you need and more. The Wrangler/4Runner crowd here in the Mtn West are all about those roof mounted tents. See a lot more of that set-up than Wranglers pulling RV's. Anyone trying to pull >3500lbs over the Continental Divide (10k-12k Ft above sea level) really needs to be using a well equipped truck. Edited August 10, 2020 by Kev-Mo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) https://www.broncosportforum.com/forum/uploads/2021-Bronco-Sport-eSourceBook.pdf e source book for the bronco sport. One thing I found interesting is the under seat storage only appears to be available on the badlands and first edition. Doesn’t even appear optional on anything else. Edited August 10, 2020 by T-dubz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Kev-Mo said: I don't see a problem. The very largest popup campers, with side pull outs come in at just about 3500lbs. The largest off-road, lifted versions of popups are lighter yet 3000- 3300lbs. A nice mid-sized modern popup, standard or off- road, can easily be <3000lbs with everything you need and more. The Wrangler/4Runner crowd here in the Mtn West are all about those roof mounted tents. See a lot more of that set-up than Wranglers pulling RV's. Anyone trying to pull >3500lbs over the Continental Divide (10k-12k Ft above sea level) really needs to be using a well equipped truck. For sure, I'm not worried about the trailer aspect, I'd just like the option of towing my Sasquatch Bronco with my base Bronco 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 hours ago, akirby said: I think Ford is sandbagging on the towing capacity on both Bronco and sport. I think power ratings may creep up a bit too - remember they announced "targeted" hp/torque. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 hours ago, akirby said: When Ranger does 7k and Explorer does 5K, 3500 is low. Not a deal breaker for most but again seems too low by comparison. Maybe they will come out with tow package on Bronco to raise the limit but can't combine with Sasquatch. That should solve a lot of the drivetrain durability concern. As for Bronco Sport... not sure why it is different than Escape. Like you said, the tires doesn't account for all the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, bzcat said: Maybe they will come out with tow package on Bronco to raise the limit but can't combine with Sasquatch. That should solve a lot of the drivetrain durability concern. As for Bronco Sport... not sure why it is different than Escape. Like you said, the tires doesn't account for all the difference. Bronco is currently a class II. I’d expect a class III towing package with 5K lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) The Raptor has a much lower tow rating than a comparable F-150, even though it's got 4.10's in the back (thanks to the big tires). Don't hear much complaining about that. HRG Edited August 11, 2020 by HotRunrGuy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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