Chromey Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 45 minutes ago, ANTAUS said: Interior Looks like they flipped the brake controller and the backup dial. Makes that easier to reach than the current model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T hawker Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, probowler said: I can't possibly imagine this tech being ready for prime time within the next generation or the generation after that.. If true, that's wack yo. Seriously, lets do the math.... 10 years? No way.... Even 20 honestly seems hard to believe. Didn't Ford move the horn to the turn signal stalk in preparation for air bags? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said: That makes more sense than saving space. I was looking at the console in my car before I left work this morning and compared it to the 2015 fusion parked next to me. The dial/parking brake assembly takes up just as much space as the old shift lever. Yes but the rotary doesn’t take up vertical space like the shifter. I happen to like the rotary knob in my Fusion and other vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, 02MustangGT said: Yes but the rotary doesn’t take up vertical space like the shifter. I happen to like the rotary knob in my Fusion and other vehicles. I like using the shifter to rest my hand on. It's more comfortable to me, especially since I have some nerve issues in my right shoulder. A water bottle kinda works as a substitute but it's not quite the same. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, akirby said: I bet some people’s head will explode when they find out the ignition key doesn’t engage the starter anymore. It all runs through the computer and the computer controls the starter and the throttle. In the F-150, it hasn't been connected to the starter in about a decade. Since they switched powertrains from the 4.6/5.4 to the Coyote and EcoBoost for the 2011MY, turning the key to the start position just sends a signal to the computer to tell it to start the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, akirby said: I like the push buttons on our Lincoln. You don’t have to put it in park - just turn off the engine. There are also some safety features made possible with full electronic control. Safety features such as...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, T hawker said: Didn't Ford move the horn to the turn signal stalk in preparation for air bags? Yep. In the Tempo. Fleet Tempos got airbags first and they put horn on end of turn signal stalk. It was very awkward. I only saw one in the dealership. But by the time airbags hit main stream in the 89 continental they moved to the thumb buttons on steering wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 13 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Their whole reasoning publicly was saving space on the center console, then I look at all of that precious saved space and see they didn't really do much, if anything with it. Makes me wonder what the point is. Bingo. I have it on my work Expedition and I really don’t see the benefit. As far as I’m concerned just go back to the column shifter and free the entire space. Alternatively they could also use the seemingly controversial push buttons mounted somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) So far, I’m not particularly excited about this truck based on the little bit we have seen. I hope seeing the final package will change that. There isn’t anything particularly detrimental, but nothing is making me say wow yet. I feel the Ram interior still has the F150 interior covered with what can be see as well. Edited February 22, 2020 by tbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 not look like the ford/chebby triplets the smart play would be ram..plus it has a far nicer interior..the 15" television in the ford/chebby triplets seems slightly gawdy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T hawker Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, fordtech1 said: Yep. In the Tempo. Fleet Tempos got airbags first and they put horn on end of turn signal stalk. It was very awkward. I only saw one in the dealership. But by the time airbags hit main stream in the 89 continental they moved to the thumb buttons on steering wheel. I seem to remember 79 Mustangs and Fairmonts. So manufacturers making changes 10 years prior to the actual reason for the change i don't think is unusual. I think it's standard operating procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 hours ago, T hawker said: Didn't Ford move the horn to the turn signal stalk in preparation for air bags? 2 hours ago, fordtech1 said: Yep. In the Tempo. Fleet Tempos got airbags first and they put horn on end of turn signal stalk. It was very awkward. I only saw one in the dealership. But by the time airbags hit main stream in the 89 continental they moved to the thumb buttons on steering wheel. 20 minutes ago, T hawker said: I seem to remember 79 Mustangs and Fairmonts. So manufacturers making changes 10 years prior to the actual reason for the change i don't think is unusual. I think it's standard operating procedure. @T hawker correct...my mom had a 1979 Ford Fairmont and the horn was indeed on the turn lever stalk...push in on it to honk the horn. it is the same for my 1983 Mustang GLX convertible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 31 minutes ago, snooter said: 2 not look like the ford/chebby triplets the smart play would be ram..plus it has a far nicer interior..the 15" television in the ford/chebby triplets seems slightly gawdy.. GM pickups don't have a 15-inch screen, it's 8 inches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, twintornados said: @T hawker correct...my mom had a 1979 Ford Fairmont and the horn was indeed on the turn lever stalk...push in on it to honk the horn. it is the same for my 1983 Mustang GLX convertible. That was before my time. I didn’t realize Ford used the turn signal lever as a horn prior to airbag. Not sure why they would do that. It’s totally awkward in a panic situation. Of course I think GMs old cruise control on the turn signal is awkward also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, fordtech1 said: Of course I think GMs old cruise control on the turn signal is awkward also. It wasn't so much awkward as it was confusing to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 hours ago, SoonerLS said: Safety features such as...? If it’s in gear and you open the door at very slow speed it puts it in park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, akirby said: If it’s in gear and you open the door at very slow speed it puts it in park. Does the same thing if you turn the engine off and it's not in park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Does the same thing if you turn the engine off and it's not in park. You don’t say..... I like the push buttons on our Lincoln. You don’t have to put it in park - just turn off the engine. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, fordtech1 said: That was before my time. I didn’t realize Ford used the turn signal lever as a horn prior to airbag. Not sure why they would do that. It’s totally awkward in a panic situation. Of course I think GMs old cruise control on the turn signal is awkward also. Well...I am 56 so theres always that... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 In dealership life when I started, carburetors were rare. Actually anything pre-port injection was old. More I think about it EEC-IV was phasing out. The super star II was only used for air suspension diagnostics. WDS (aka wont do shit) was coming in and SBDS was fantastic on old stuff but was on the way out. Hard to believe it’s been 24 years since I was a lube rack kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, akirby said: You don’t say..... I missed that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T hawker Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 51 minutes ago, twintornados said: Well...I am 56 so theres always that... Same here! My parents had a 79 Mustang coupe, 2.3 with a 4 speed manual. Grandparents had a 79 Zephyr wagon with the 5.0. Parents made me use the Mustang for my driving test bc of the manual, i wanted to use the 73 LTD Country Squire wagon with the 6.6l Ah, the good old days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 53 minutes ago, fordtech1 said: In dealership life when I started, carburetors were rare. Actually anything pre-port injection was old. More I think about it EEC-IV was phasing out. The super star II was only used for air suspension diagnostics. WDS (aka wont do shit) was coming in and SBDS was fantastic on old stuff but was on the way out. Hard to believe it’s been 24 years since I was a lube rack kid. I think most Ford products got rid of carbs in 1984-85 time period...maybe trucks had them, but passenger cars pretty much had EFI or PFI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 4 hours ago, MY93SHO said: GM pickups don't have a 15-inch screen, it's 8 inches. He's winding us up..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, silvrsvt said: I think most Ford products got rid of carbs in 1984-85 time period...maybe trucks had them, but passenger cars pretty much had EFI or PFI Yes, CFI didn't last long before batch fire PFI took over then it was sequential PFI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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