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Definite improvement.  Still not a fan of the Chevy design but it is nicely done.

 

I don’t understand the “entry level” 2.7L I4 turbo.

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36 minutes ago, akirby said:

Definite improvement.  Still not a fan of the Chevy design but it is nicely done.

 

I don’t understand the “entry level” 2.7L I4 turbo.

 

Agreed. I think it looks far better than the Silverado, design-wise. 

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Is it really cheaper to detune the 2.7L rather than use a 2.0L as the base engine?

 

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Three different versions of the engine will be available, and the entry-level unit produces 237 hp (177 kW / 240 PS) and 259 lb-ft (351 Nm) of torque. Both numbers are a sizable improvement over the old 2.5-liter four-cylinder, which cranked out 200 hp (149 kW / 203 PS) and 191 lb-ft (258 Nm).

The mid-level engine comes standard on the Trail Boss and Z71, while also being available on the WT and LT as an option. It packs 310 hp (231 kW / 314 PS) and 390 lb-ft (528 Nm) of torque, which doesn’t sound like a huge improvement as it only has 2 hp (1 kW / 2 PS) more than the old 3.6-liter V6. However, the torque figure has grown a substantial 115 lb-ft (156 Nm) and it puts competitors to shame.

 

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To me, the front end is a bit busy, but it does look like a Chevy.

 

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52 minutes ago, akirby said:

I don’t understand the “entry level” 2.7L I4 turbo.

 

From a marketing standpoint, I think GM wants to use a pricing model for 2023 Colorado that's similar to the current model, which has 2.5L 4-cylinder gasoline as the "entry level" engine, 3.6L V6 gasoline engine as the mid-level upgrade priced at $1,250 additional, and on the ZR2, the 2.8L 4-cylinder Duramax diesel engine as the high-end engine priced at $3,670 more than the V6.

 

20 minutes ago, akirby said:

Is it really cheaper to detune the 2.7L rather than use a 2.0L as the base engine?

 

Yes. The different tunes for 2.7L engine (L3B) are controlled mostly by the engines' software.

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Good looking truck. The updates make the truck more competitive, but the Zr2 is heavy.

 

The Ranger Raptor is far better than the Zr2, but the Chevy looks good.

 

I still think the EB 2.7l is coming to the Ranger?

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1 hour ago, akirby said:

Is it really cheaper to detune the 2.7L rather than use a 2.0L as the base engine?

 

 

 

It would make production a lot easier. I bet they didn't sell many 2.0L trucks and probably won't sell many with the "entry-level" 2.7L engines either. 

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4 hours ago, Broncofan7 said:

I still think the EB 2.7l is coming to the Ranger?


It wouldn't surprise me. We already know the Raptor is getting the 3.0. 

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My first thought was it's a mistake getting rid of the V6 when it's looking like the new Ranger is getting one but after seeing those power numbers I changed my mind. 

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It looks pretty svelte for a truck. I'm still not a fan of Chevy's overwrought styling, though.

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12 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said:

My first thought was it's a mistake getting rid of the V6 when it's looking like the new Ranger is getting one but after seeing those power numbers I changed my mind. 


It’s an I4 but it’s 2.7L same displacement as Ford’s V6 and just as much if not more power.

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17 hours ago, Broncofan7 said:

Good looking truck. The updates make the truck more competitive, but the Zr2 is heavy.

 

The Ranger Raptor is far better than the Zr2, but the Chevy looks good.

 

I still think the EB 2.7l is coming to the Ranger?


Makes sense if Ford wants to compete in the torque wars for regular models (we all know the Raptor version will have tons of torque). The regular Ranger will need an optional engine above the 2.3 EcoBoost. Speaking of 2.3 Ecoboost, I noticed in the new VW Amarok's press release, some markets will be available with a 2.3-liter turbocharged gasoline engine with 302PS (298hp) and 452Nm (333lb-ft) of torque. I compared it to the other 2.3 EcoBoost engines in Ford pickups and SUVs.

Amarok 2.3 (EcoBoost) turbo: 298hp and 333lb-ft
Bronco 2.3 EcoBoost: 275hp and 315lb-ft
Bronco 2.3 EcoBoost (with premium fuel): 300hp and 325lb-ft
Ranger 2.3 EcoBoost: 270hp and 310lb-ft
Ranger 2.3 EcoBoost (with EcoBoost Power Pack Performance Calibration): est 315hp and est 370lb-ft
Ford Explorer 2.3 EcoBoost (rated with premium fuel): 300hp and 310lb-ft

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ZR2 looks good. The front looks a bit like a 4Runner on that trim. Current ZR2 is around $45k. Is it a competitor with the ranger raptor or would it be a step down? Weren’t we expecting the raptor to be around $50k?

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2 hours ago, AM222 said:

 The regular Ranger will need an optional engine above the 2.3 EcoBoost. 

 

I'm thinking the 2.3L with the Powerboost 10 Speed should be able to take care of that problem. 

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24 minutes ago, silvrsvt said:

 

I'm thinking the 2.3L with the Powerboost 10 Speed should be able to take care of that problem. 

 

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3 hours ago, AM222 said:


Makes sense if Ford wants to compete in the torque wars for regular models (we all know the Raptor version will have tons of torque). The regular Ranger will need an optional engine above the 2.3 EcoBoost. Speaking of 2.3 Ecoboost, I noticed in the new VW Amarok's press release, some markets will be available with a 2.3-liter turbocharged gasoline engine with 302PS (298hp) and 452Nm (333lb-ft) of torque. I compared it to the other 2.3 EcoBoost engines in Ford pickups and SUVs.

Amarok 2.3 (EcoBoost) turbo: 298hp and 333lb-ft
Bronco 2.3 EcoBoost: 275hp and 315lb-ft
Bronco 2.3 EcoBoost (with premium fuel): 300hp and 325lb-ft
Ranger 2.3 EcoBoost: 270hp and 310lb-ft
Ranger 2.3 EcoBoost (with EcoBoost Power Pack Performance Calibration): est 315hp and est 370lb-ft
Ford Explorer 2.3 EcoBoost (rated with premium fuel): 300hp and 310lb-ft

 

Good analysis! I think that the 2.3l carries over, with the 2.7l the upgrade engine for the regular trucks, and the Ranger Raptor obviously has the 3.0l.

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I'm betting Ford won't even bother with the 2.7EB in the Ranger.  Just 2.3 Ecoboost, 2.3 Powerboost, and Raptor with the 3.0EB.

 

My reasoning is I think Ford wants to push it's hybrid/plug in options.  If they can get enough batteries for that strategy.

 

I'll take a PowerBoost BTW.  🙂

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On 7/28/2022 at 7:57 PM, fuzzymoomoo said:


It wouldn't surprise me. We already know the Raptor is getting the 3.0. 

Is Ford phasing out the 2.7EB?  This makes it seem like it.

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1 hour ago, papilgee4evaeva said:

Is Ford phasing out the 2.7EB?  This makes it seem like it.

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Because the 3.0 is going in the Raptor I think it stands to reason the 2.7 will probably be available too. 

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19 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said:

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Because the 3.0 is going in the Raptor I think it stands to reason the 2.7 will probably be available too. 

I sure did.  My mind read "Raptor" as simply "Ranger." 🤦🏿‍♂️

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On 7/29/2022 at 1:06 PM, 92merc said:

I'm betting Ford won't even bother with the 2.7EB in the Ranger.  Just 2.3 Ecoboost, 2.3 Powerboost, and Raptor with the 3.0EB.

 

My reasoning is I think Ford wants to push it's hybrid/plug in options.  If they can get enough batteries for that strategy.

 

I'll take a PowerBoost BTW.  🙂

 

Well, they're already installing it in Broncos, so it's not as if you're having to rearrange the assembly line/platform for the motor.

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On 7/28/2022 at 12:43 PM, akirby said:

Definite improvement.  Still not a fan of the Chevy design but it is nicely done.

 

I don’t understand the “entry level” 2.7L I4 turbo.

Doesn't it have about the same numbers as the small Ford 2.7 turbo?

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1 hour ago, CKNSLS said:

Doesn't it have about the same numbers as the small Ford 2.7 turbo?

 

 

No - go back and read the article.

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