I pay no attention to JD Power. A company can get them to say anything if they qualify it enough. You know, like best car made on a Tuesday at 4:01 PM when the sun was shining on an even numbered day!

Well gotta pay for that "free" Healthcare some how LOL 

It is what it is, this isn't the 1980s when AC wasn't standard on vehicles and a sun/moon roof was a nice way to get extra air into the car. I seriously wonder how many people actually use them and saying you do is fine and good, but its like saying you still use LPs when tech has moved on to other things that more people use. 

FWIW, I see a lot of Escalades and Yukon Denalis in livery service.  The Navigator is not so well represented in the black car trade.

Well This is subjective, I am on the team that doesn’t like the new front end, it looks really weird IMO, I prefer the old model exterior

Could it be that the Escalade is a better looking vehicle-at least in my opinion.

Because the factory is at capacity and Ford has chosen not to expand production until last year when they decided to add SD to Oakville.  Adding a factory is a lot of overhead if you can’t run it for at least two shifts.  GM is much better at having sufficient factory capacity.  Ford tries to squeak by with the bare minimum and it hurts them frequently not being able to meet demand.

It adds up perfectly if you look at it financially and not technically or from a consumer standpoint.  It’s not an excuse - that’s just the business decision they made.  If they’re selling all they can make at high ATPs then it doesn’t make sense to invest in those upgrades from a financial standpoint.  It’s a zero sum game so whatever they save on Navi they can invest in other products.  Obviously as a consumer and Ford fan it’s frustrating but the business decision makes sense.

Thinking that other "legacy" manufacturers could tie in with Generac or others to offer the "solar aspect".    https://www.generac.com/solar-battery-storage/how-pwrcell-works/

But why does it have to come  at the expense of other products? Ford has a lot of plants that are under capacity, the problem is that they never wanted to focus on the segment and have never really invested on it.   Also, I am sorry but I had read this same speech that making the Navi better, increasing sales as a result, would impact Expy or SD for more than 10 years, heck, even when I was at the university (and that was a looong time ago) and visiting Ford Inside News! Does Ford really don’t have any capacity to change this in a decade?    I have read that the Escalade makes GM a lot of profit, why it isn’t the case for Ford?    Of course winning comparisons translates into sales but it helps a bit, if not, why is Lincoln promoting that the Nautilus was MT Suv of 2024?  Also take into account that the Navi invented the segment and was the leader until Ford stop caring.   As others members have said, I just want the Navi to be great, not good enough.