Also helps to consider that many other dedicated BEV manufacturers that have been in business for many years are still not profitable or went bankrupt.  Tesla was unique in having very little competition at first and also an incredible following.  Presently Tesla has their profitability issues too.  Sales in California are down considerably which may hint what’s to come in other markets.

Great to hear.  Expect the AWD Hybrid with 4,000-pound tow package will be a big seller.  Just adding AWD option to Hybrid should help sales IMO.  For what it’s worth, the newest 2025 FORD RV & TRAILER TOWING GUIDE shows the AWD Hybrid as 4-wheel-down towable behind motorhomes, which might help some too.

MavE-rick? Mustang Ranchero-e?

Well BOC and the battery plants should be actually making product instead of spending money to get tooled up to make that product, so that is a huge change right there. 

The new design didn't stop me from ordering one yesterday....2025 Maverick Lariat AWD Hybrid, 4K tow Eruption Green....the one I looked at on the lot on Saturday was dealer traded when I went back Monday afternoon....  

Hopefully the additional/next-gen products will help them acheive that.   I think we also have to remember that it took Tesla years to break even, without the benefit of ICE products to fund them.

Haha, I watched longer than I care to admit......like watching a train wreck.   I just don't understand 1) who thought of that and also 2) who approved it?  

Or the losses become break even in a couple years  

So much for that!   Nissan board agrees to scrap $60 billion Honda merger talks, source says

Maybe production pause and/or new models are trickling into dealers?  Only thing I can think of.     That was my point in one of the posts either on this thread or another (can't remember which) - Ford slams the brakes on plans and then leaves major gaps in product cadence, and then pushes their refresh into what should be a redesign timeline.  If they followed the 3/6 refresh/redesign timeline, the refresh should've happened for '23 or '24 at the latest, with a new model being for '26 or '27 (granting an additional year because of covid), but for some reason, they keep going long on Explorer redesigns, and I think they've been lucky with sales remaining stable.