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Ford can keep their Chinese made Nautilus. They take it from our plant to go build it in China, THEY CAN KEEP IT! Who knows, for all we know Nautilus and Edge or that Fusion whatever it is get built in Mexico in 2023 in EV format!

We buy enough stuff from China, I will NEVER buy any China built Ford!

Knowing Ford, all those added costs are already being factored into the price and passed onto customers. The back to basics 7.3 was a mental reset by Ford as it zoned in on what was really needed in SD trucks and vans, the needs and statutory requirements in segments like F150 and utilities dictate complex solutions that in time will be supplanted by electrification, Ford seems comfortable with current ICEs until electrification really takes hold. 7.3 in various power ratings seems set to replace the 6.2 in Super Duty and E Series, the 6.8 is shaping as the replacement for the low volume high performance 5.2 V8 that is Currently restricted to just Mustang. I'm thinking that the 6.8 V8 is most definitely a remedy for the 392, the potential is huge.

if its emissions free...why not...California is renowned for throwing crap at the wall and seeing if it sticks through absurd policy....only to back off when their constituents tell them to go " … " themselves or they will be voted out.....witness Newsome backing off on lockdowns etc when his recall vote was getting close to the numbers needed... ...

Here's an interesting cut on 2020 Q4 luxury (well, premium, with the addition of a Buick Enclave) mid-sized 3-row SUV sales in the United States. It shows that Lincoln Aviator sales pushed past the Cadillac XT6 and got close to the Audi Q7. It's impressive, but remember these are U.S. sales only. Lincoln lacks the global reach of its European and Japanese competitors, and its sales are still dwarfed by the big three: BMW X5, MB GLE and Acura MDX. Though honestly, the X5 and GLE are closer to Nautilus size than Aviator, and what percentage of them are sold as 3-rows these days? I just wish FMC hadn't canceled the Nautilus' redesign. The second mid-cycle refresh for 2021 is nice, but it is still starting to get a little long in the tooth. https://fordauthority.com/2021/03/lincoln-aviator-sales-numbers-figures-results-q4-2020/

Same here. If I can help it, I skip on china stuff.

The only number to look at is total deaths from all causes. Every year from 2014 through 2019 total deaths increased by 20k-80k a year due to population increases. In 2020 deaths increased by over 400K. Without some other cause that has yet to be identified, you must conclude that Covid is responsible for those additional deaths regardless of classifications or other factors. Without Covid the increase should have been 80k at most based on past history. Those are just facts and I highly doubt the CDC is faking total deaths.

My guess is that the illumination light is already in position above that (side) location, and it ain't movin' HRG

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Nice job, looks much better.

Lets see, Quarantine the non effected, non positive result members of the general population. Vaccinate but, still mandate protective coverings and restrict everyone in the general population in the same manner as before the vaccination. Don`t act on studies that prove with data, that certain members of the population have 0% of death or hospitalization to continue with the same restrictive level of quarantine. Don`t act on studies that prove with data, that certain members of the population have the highest risk of death and/or hospitalization and allow confirmed infected members of the population to be housed with non infected members of the same at risk population. Don`t allow members of the population to work or be educated that are a part of the lowest percentage of at risk in the general population. Proceed with R&D for developing a vaccine to protect the lowest risk members of the general population. Proceed with R&D for developing a vaccine to protect livestock or domestic animals. Never give any data or percentage on the non effected members of the population when referring to those members of the population as having a possible natural immunity. Allow but take no or allow for consideration of these working/in progress real time R&D results: 400 thousand UAW members working as prior to the pandemic. Spike in infections? Spike in casualties? Spike in hospitalizations? 280 thousand USW members working as prior to the pandemic. Spike in infections? Spike in casualties? Spike in hospitalizations? A half million or better sub assembly part suppliers with working members as prior to the pandemic. Spike in infections? Spike in casualties? Spike in hospitalizations? Thousands of the population at the lowest risk of death and/or hospitalization attending in person education. Spike in infections? Spike in casualties? Spike in hospitalizations? Of course it will be stated over and over the "what if" and/or "maybe" and/or "possibly" as the reason very few are looking into these situations for an educated basis to move forward and react in an educated manner to this Pandemic. All conspiracies aside, with little knowledge of what is truly happing to the general population by the powers that be, ......this shit isn`t adding up.

I think that this 6.8l engine will be a direct competitor to the 392. Though, in addition to being in the F-150 and Mustang, I want it in the Bronco as well. Could this technology eventually come into play here: Future Ford F-150 Might Add Maserati-Like Prechamber Ignition Tech (automobilemag.com)

Fleet order scheduling is a different process from scheduling for stock or retail orders. In addition, the fleet order-to-delivery timetable is much longer than for stock or retail orders and certain fleet models (Police units in particular) have different specifications. Initial scheduling is normally restricted to Dealer stock orders only with retail orders starting to schedule only after the "Okay to Buy" status is achieved after 5 consecutive days of production with zero defects.

I guess it's far easier and cheaper to just do the flip out bed extender, though.

Ok, tried my hand at improving it a bit: All I did was shrink the grille height a bit and have the lower point end at the top of the lower grille instead of intersecting it.

Maybe this becomes Ford’s equivalent of the 392 hemi and they shove it in anything that it will fit as a premium running out of ice special edition. The 3.5EB would still be available...I don’t see it being dropped unless Ford has a 3.6-4.5l EB v8 in the works also. I’ll speculate it will be SOHC, high revving (7500+ rpm) 2v per cylinder making 650hp in top tune. Naturally aspirated and aluminum block to save weight and give better handling balance than the predator v8. who is keeping track of the guesses?

Style and classic automotive proportions......so it doesn't look like a jellybean/shoe.

Yes I picked up on that too. The 90s BMW 850 and Z3 are some of nicest BMWs in my opinion along with the old classic 70s 2002 (02 Series). I do like this Genesis concept even with that grille. It looks nice.

Hyundai definitely went the more Subaru Baja route style wise, while Ford went more traditional truck. With how well (or rather poorly) the Subaru did previously, I'd lean more toward Ford having the right approach. But obviously market preferences have changed since the Baja, and we haven't really seen another attempt at this type of vehicle that I can think of.

Has a 90s BMW 850 vibe...

That was a main reason Ford left. You work like crazy to get a small advantage and they take it away. They should set the BOP and leave it for the entire season.

Since we seem to have moved into the wild-assed speculation phase, what if Ford decides to make the 6.8 in both iron and aluminum block versions? The iron block could be the replacement for the 6.2 in truck applications while the aluminum block version could replace the 5.2 in the GT500 and could also serve duty in the 2022 Raptor. It's not as if Ford hasn't done something similar in the past. Both the 4.6 and 5.4 mod motors were examples of very similar strategies.

Ya think someone... anyone... in the Jobama administration would have told the one percent primary vote getter VP (Victory Princess) Kammy Harris to please just stop with the giggling and/or laughing when asked serious questions?? When is Air Force Duce heading to the boarder? That should be a real Kammy Giggle Fest.

But, is it allowed under the BEV mandate? I’m guessing based on the work being done with fuel cells that it might. I haven’t read CA’s mandate, nor do I care to. Other biofuels may qualify also. if synthetic and biofuels are allowed, it calls into question the decision any mfg makes to drop ice development.

I've heard a few things recently that are cause to be excited. Patience people, patience.

The BEV Bronco isn’t as far in the future as you think and there are ways around the range issues in the toolbox. Instant torque changes rock crawling. Engineering actually has some power in the company currently with budgets and making class leading product.

^this....an alternative to electric could quite possibly mean the continued existence of the ICE as we know it....

Remember too that federal aid for unemployment and the stimulus Trojan horse has left us with a de facto minimum wage of closer to $25/hr than the $15 that is desired. Inflation, that insidious blast from the '70s lurks. It is also a potent tax enhancer. No need to change tax rates, let inflation bring middle income up to "rich" rates of a few years before. Eats away at savings too, particularly for old folks with "fixed income" investments. Old guy who remembers when "$10,000 per year man" meant a successful businessperson or professional.

Just when you thought Lexus front ends couldn't get any worse.

Exactly. Better to work the bugs out in CA before going all in. Various parts of the country (densely populated, mild climate, wealthier) are good places to start. That will give additional time for the infrastructure to be built out in rural areas just like it did for telecommunications, the electric grid, interstate highway system, and rail lines. Start with the best return on investment and work your way down as technology improves and the cost goes down. If it doesn’t improve, keep ice around for where it isn’t economically feasible to be bev. Biofuels can be used to reduce emissions as needed. I’m not going to complain about wider availability of higher ethanol blends with multiple ecoboost engines in the household. They can really take advantage of the higher octane.