7Mary3 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I really like it, and I am probably more likely to buy the Maverick than the Bronco. I have a bad feeling the Bronco is going to be really expensive. Nonetheless, Ford should sell the Bronco for as much as they can get for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerSooner Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Sitting at a red light today beside a 2007 Explorer, I noticed the Explorer's circle-dash design in its taillights is perfectly mimicked by the headlight/running light design of the Maverick. Also, big thumbs up if they use LED to light the big FORD letters in the grille like the picture seems to suggest. I haven't seen anyone else do that yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 This may impress the type of people who like jeep renegades and the ford exploder, but not classic bronco fans. ? Fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, probowler said: This may impress the type of people who like jeep renegades and the ford exploder, but not classic bronco fans. ? Fail Well, lucky for them, this ain't the Bronco! ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 24 minutes ago, probowler said: This may impress the type of people who like jeep renegades and the ford exploder, but not classic bronco fans. ? Fail Seriously, try to keep up. This is a direct Renegade competitor. Not a Bronco. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 6 hours ago, akirby said: Seriously, try to keep up. This is a direct Renegade competitor. Not a Bronco. You should do something to make this clear. You know, like putting it in the thread title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, SoonerLS said: You should do something to make this clear. You know, like putting it in the thread title. Meet the 2020 Maverick is pretty clear to me ??♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Meet the 2020 Maverick is pretty clear to me ??♂️ Your sarcasm detector is on the fritz... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just now, SoonerLS said: Your sarcasm detector is on the fritz... It's 11:38pm and I'm laying in bed. I'm not surprised 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 It is cute. I think it will do good against the Renegade and other small CUVs. I wonder if it will have some of the extra goodies like the Renegade has for mild offroading (if being a "baby Bronco" is their marketing focus)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I wonder if it will have removable roof panels like the Renegade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Anthony said: It is cute. I think it will do good against the Renegade and other small CUVs. I wonder if it will have some of the extra goodies like the Renegade has for mild offroading (if being a "baby Bronco" is their marketing focus)? One would think looking at those tires. It will probably be similar to the Cherokee systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) I'm guessing baby Bronco will have optional more robust AWD system with more lift and skid plates etc. Perhaps similar to what Jeep offers on its Trailhawk trim level. But the vast majority sold will be FWD or on-demand AWD. Edited November 15, 2018 by bzcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 6 hours ago, bzcat said: I'm guessing baby Bronco will have optional more robust AWD system with more lift and skid plates etc. Perhaps similar to what Jeep offers on its Trailhawk trim level. But the vast majority sold will be FWD or on-demand AWD. In that line of thinking, will the Maverick be an Escape with chunky body? If so, it may put a limit on Escape sales while building a new customer base... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 14 hours ago, jpd80 said: In that line of thinking, will the Maverick be an Escape with chunky body? If so, it may put a limit on Escape sales while building a new customer base... Depends...the Escape will be getting slightly larger next gen. I'd expect the Maverick to be more of an entry level product then the Escape to fill in the current Escape Pricing. Starting and expected MSRP: 2018 Ecosport: 19995 2020 Maverick: 21999 2020 Escape: 25999 2019 Edge: 29995 2020 Explorer: 33999 Going by the rumor history of the vehicle-Short C and Gen X CUV (which i'm sure was mixed up with the Mach One also) that it will be slotted at the lower end of the market since the other products will get more expensive above it. The Escape will be the mass market vehicle, while the Maverick will appeal more to a male or adventurous type that don't need or want a full sized Bronco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/17/2018 at 12:48 AM, silvrsvt said: Depends...the Escape will be getting slightly larger next gen. I'd expect the Maverick to be more of an entry level product then the Escape to fill in the current Escape Pricing. Starting and expected MSRP: 2018 Ecosport: 19995 2020 Maverick: 21999 2020 Escape: 25999 2019 Edge: 29995 2020 Explorer: 33999 Going by the rumor history of the vehicle-Short C and Gen X CUV (which i'm sure was mixed up with the Mach One also) that it will be slotted at the lower end of the market since the other products will get more expensive above it. The Escape will be the mass market vehicle, while the Maverick will appeal more to a male or adventurous type that don't need or want a full sized Bronco I have a hunch that it's much simpler than that, Ford is channeling lapsed buyers with chunkier SUV type Utilities while also continuing to offer softer more rounded Utilities. You may be right with your profite of Maverick buyer but it may also appeal to people who liked the squarer body of the older Escapes. So maybe there's an opportunity forwider participation as well as regrouping of buyers that leads to more balanced production of Maverick and Escape as well as the other utilities planned. I'm hoping that NAIAS and more product announcements from Ford will answer questions about how everything fits together... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 12:42 PM, akirby said: Seriously, try to keep up. This is a direct Renegade competitor. Not a Bronco. I didn't say it was. I stand by my statement, it looks like millennial trash, like every other non ford truck right now. If Ford is going to make a baby Bronco... they could you know, try. Hopefully this is more successful than the Flex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzach Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 hours ago, probowler said: I didn't say it was. I stand by my statement, it looks like millennial trash, like every other non ford truck right now. If Ford is going to make a baby Bronco... they could you know, try. Hopefully this is more successful than the Flex. I like it and my wife loves it we are in our 50's. Also the flex missed yes but I think because it was too wagonish utilities are getting longer and lower now so I think it was just ahead of where the market was going. Plus millennials are the target market nowadays. I think this will do great. I think when they changed the escape they lost buyers but gained more different ones and this could bring back some of the old one again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 7 hours ago, probowler said: I didn't say it was. I stand by my statement, it looks like millennial trash, like every other non ford truck right now. If Ford is going to make a baby Bronco... they could you know, try. Hopefully this is more successful than the Flex. Bronco fans will be buying the real Bronco. This is a completely different vehicle made to appeal to different buyers and made to compete with Renegade, Juke and other highly stylized small utilities. You act like you’re the only one buying vehicles and Ford should only make what you like. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 45 minutes ago, akirby said: Bronco fans will be buying the real Bronco. This is a completely different vehicle made to appeal to different buyers and made to compete with Renegade, Juke and other highly stylized small utilities. You act like you’re the only one buying vehicles and Ford should only make what you like. Get over it. He said the same things about the Renegade and well guess who was wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Anyone ever notice that Renegade and Maverick have very similar definitions? Both are basically an individual that is unorthodox and independent or behaves in a rebelliously unconventional manner. Just thought that was interesting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Anthony said: Anyone ever notice that Renegade and Maverick have very similar definitions? Both are basically an individual that is unorthodox and independent or behaves in a rebelliously unconventional manner. Just thought that was interesting. Yeah, Goose just didn’t do as well with the focus groups..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 8 hours ago, akirby said: Yeah, Goose just didn’t do as well with the focus groups..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 If Ford does actually call it the Maverick, I'm going to give my buddy a hard time and tell him he needs to buy one for his son (who is less then 6 months old now anyways) who is named Maverick-actually after Pete Mitchel aka Tom Cruse from Top Gun-he's an avation nut and him and his wife both drive Jeeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: If Ford does actually call it the Maverick, I'm going to give my buddy a hard time and tell him he needs to buy one for his son (who is less then 6 months old now anyways) who is named Maverick-actually after Pete Mitchel aka Tom Cruse from Top Gun-he's an avation nut and him and his wife both drive Jeeps. So....Renegade was not in the cards for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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