Anthony Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 https://www.autonews.com/sales/sales-dip-behind-jan-chill-saar-falls-169m If you cant access the article clear cookies for that domain. Here's the numbers: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Nice numbers for Lincoln, and Ford for that matter. Hopefully jpd comes along with his data soon Edited February 5, 2019 by akirby user request Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Rolls-Royce outsold Smart... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadicalX Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Lincoln is strong and with a big growth. I want to follow these numbers when Aviator it's on sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Well remember Ford isn't going to post monthy sales, and is following GM's lead. But industry analysts have stated GM fell 7 percent, and Ford jumped up 7 percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, ANTAUS said: Well remember Ford isn't going to post monthy sales, and is following GM's lead. But industry analysts have stated GM fell 7 percent, and Ford jumped up 7 percent. There's real anger with GM over the plant closures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Tesla was the #1 luxury car brand in the U.S. last month. Very impressive. Lincoln had a nice growth spurt in January 2019 too. Cadillac has the potential to grow sales as well with its refreshed vehicle lineup. Go team USA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe771476 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Does the Ford figure include trucks? Why aren't GM divisions broken down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, rperez817 said: Tesla was the #1 luxury car brand in the U.S. last month. Very impressive. Yeah...all those "luxury" Model 3 sales made a big difference in the percentage gain... Edited February 3, 2019 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msm859 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, twintornados said: Yeah...all those "luxury" Model 3 sales made a big difference in the percentage gain... I believe Audi, BMW and Mercedes would call them luxury sales, since the Model 3 seems to be taking away sales from them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Cascada 103 LaCrosse 365 Regal 733 Verano 1 Enclave 2,743 Encore 5,425 Envision 1,853 ATS 201 CT6 548 CTS 524 XTS 659 Escalade 1,331 Escalade ESV 932 XT4 1,817 XT5 3,278 Bolt 1,505 Camaro 2,340 Corvette 800 Cruze 4,712 Impala 1,729 Malibu 8,264 Sonic 1,067 Spark 1,941 Volt 1,090 Blazer 1,863 City Express 63 Colorado 6,999 Equinox 23,183 Express van 4,782 Silverado 41,255 Suburban 2,972 Tahoe 6,173 Traverse 10,741 Trax 4,518 Acadia 5,225 Canyon 1,550 Savana van 809 Sierra 17,573 Terrain 6,658 Yukon 3,644 Yukon XL 2,891 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DequindreToo Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Cascada 103 LaCrosse 365 Regal 733 Verano 1 Enclave 2,743 Encore 5,425 Envision 1,853 ATS 201 CT6 548 CTS 524 XTS 659 Escalade 1,331 Escalade ESV 932 XT4 1,817 XT5 3,278 Bolt 1,505 Camaro 2,340 Corvette 800 Cruze 4,712 Impala 1,729 Malibu 8,264 Sonic 1,067 Spark 1,941 Volt 1,090 Blazer 1,863 City Express 63 Colorado 6,999 Equinox 23,183 Express van 4,782 Silverado 41,255 Suburban 2,972 Tahoe 6,173 Traverse 10,741 Trax 4,518 Acadia 5,225 Canyon 1,550 Savana van 809 Sierra 17,573 Terrain 6,658 Yukon 3,644 Yukon XL 2,891 Wow... Cadillac and Buick car sales are in a tailspin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Joe771476 said: Does the Ford figure include trucks? Why aren't GM divisions broken down? The GM numbers are estimates (IIRC, GM is no longer doing monthly sales reporting). That's what the "**" next to the name means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Sales normally drop this time of the year with very cold weather in the Northern states, Cadillac may have pulled forward a lot of sales in December... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 On 2/2/2019 at 12:33 PM, rperez817 said: Tesla was the #1 luxury car brand in the U.S. last month. Very impressive. Lincoln had a nice growth spurt in January 2019 too. Cadillac has the potential to grow sales as well with its refreshed vehicle lineup. Go team USA! In the story's comments, someone said that a different source was reporting ~7K sales for Tesla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, SoonerLS said: In the story's comments, someone said that a different source was reporting ~7K sales for Tesla. Model 3.........28,000 Model S...........2,100 Model x ..........1,800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, msm859 said: I believe Audi, BMW and Mercedes would call them luxury sales, since the Model 3 seems to be taking away sales from them. Edited February 4, 2019 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 20 hours ago, msm859 said: I believe Audi, BMW and Mercedes would call them luxury sales, since the Model 3 seems to be taking away sales from them. The Honda Civic and Accord are also commonly traded in for Teslas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 22 hours ago, twintornados said: Yeah...all those "luxury" Model 3 sales made a big difference in the percentage gain... Tesla Model 3, like other Tesla brand automobiles, is a luxury car by any definition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, rperez817 said: Tesla Model 3, like other Tesla brand automobiles, is a luxury car by any definition. I'm just gonna leave this right here... https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/31/16069960/tesla-model-3-not-luxury-car-options-model-s Quote If you purchase a standard Tesla Model 3, the seats must be manually adjusted, as will the steering column. The side mirrors aren’t powered or heated, and there’s no auto dimming. There are no LED fog lamps, and if you want a covered storage area in the center console, you must pay extra. Unless you spend $5,000 for the Premium Upgrade, you’re essentially getting the interior of a base model Toyota Camry. (To be fair, the Camry comes standard with a covered center console.) Edited February 4, 2019 by twintornados 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, rperez817 said: Tesla Model 3, like other Tesla brand automobiles, is a luxury car by any definition. if you want to play that game, most F-series pickups are luxury vehicles based on price. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msm859 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: if you want to play that game, most F-series pickups are luxury vehicles based on price. Well I wouldn't say the definition is just price. And now you are comparing apples to oranges or trucks to cars. Perhaps "luxury" isn't the right term. But for the traditional "luxury" auto makers it doesn't really matter if this new "tech" car is stealing their "luxury" sales. It appears that people who have $50k+ to spend on cars are considering "tech" more important then traditional "luxury". That should be telling to manufacturers who want to compete in that "market". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, twintornados said: If you purchase a standard Tesla Model 3, the seats must be manually adjusted, as will the steering column. The side mirrors aren’t powered or heated, and there’s no auto dimming. There are no LED fog lamps, and if you want a covered storage area in the center console, you must pay extra. Unless you spend $5,000 for the Premium Upgrade, you’re essentially getting the interior of a base model Toyota Camry. (To be fair, the Camry comes standard with a covered center console. All Tesla Model 3 sold have the Premium Upgrade package. The "basic" Model 3 without Premium Upgrade package (which is still a luxury car) won't be available until later in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, msm859 said: Well I wouldn't say the definition is just price. And now you are comparing apples to oranges or trucks to cars. Perhaps "luxury" isn't the right term. But for the traditional "luxury" auto makers it doesn't really matter if this new "tech" car is stealing their "luxury" sales. It appears that people who have $50k+ to spend on cars are considering "tech" more important then traditional "luxury". That should be telling to manufacturers who want to compete in that "market". An old definition of luxury was cars that cost more then 30K a year-I'm sure its north of 40K now, since the "average" car price is in the low 30s these days. The problem is that the "luxury" auto definition isn't hard and fast either-I wouldn't put Tesla as a Luxury car maker vs Audi/MB/BMW either. There is a lot of tech in the F-series and that tech drives it over that 50K price point also, like the Tesla. I wouldn't call my $47K SHO a luxury car either-but yet it has everything but the cashe of an luxury performance sedan from those makes a lower price point. Telsa is drawing sales from people who bought higher end Camrys and Accords and with various incentives could justfiy buying a Model 3 and some gas savings. My wife's supervisor did that and admited the only way he could afford it was because of that (and his wife makes bank too) and hopefully gas savings from commuting 40-50 miles one way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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