rmc523 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 hours ago, silvrsvt said: Just hide his replies-I've done that and the stupidity disappears Sometimes it's like watching a train wreck though, you can't look away. 2 hours ago, Deanh said: the SRA was something that was shared with me from someone in the inside as avail aftermarket, nothing was mentioned as to it being ordered from the factory pre-installed , maybe avail as a Ford Racing Part perhaps....so who knows, but I DO expect Ford to address after market BIG time with the Bronco...theres $$$$$ to be made...and for once Im hoping Ford does it internally rather than leaving it to outside companies...and IIRC there was mention of a "hard core" model in the lineup....so jurys out.... Someone over at Bronco6g was basically confirming the Aviator's PHEV powertrain would make its way to Bronco in some form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, rmc523 said: Someone over at Bronco6g was basically confirming the Aviator's PHEV powertrain would make its way to Bronco in some form. It will either be a version of that or the FHEV from Explorer. Having a frame will be a boon for battery packaging, they may even be able to fit bigger batteries/motors in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: It will either be a version of that or the FHEV from Explorer. Having a frame will be a boon for battery packaging, they may even be able to fit bigger batteries/motors in there. I think he mentioned Aviator, though. And specifically put a picture of a plug in the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: It will either be a version of that or the FHEV from Explorer. Having a frame will be a boon for battery packaging, they may even be able to fit bigger batteries/motors in there. Well considering the A10 transmission is the Hybrid transmission, I don't see them being able to make a bigger motor to fit into it..then again we might be surprised. The big thing that we need to know is there going to be an upgrade from the 2.3L and the topend engine that will be in the Bronco R or Raptor or whatever they are calling it. I could personally live with 2.3L Hybrid as an upgrade over the base engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) I am definitely interested in my next vehicle being a hybrid. Not quite ready to go full BEV yet but I could make it work as a commuter car. It will either be a Bronco or NG Ranger if it has a hybrid option Edited January 17, 2020 by fuzzymoomoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 hours ago, akirby said: It's called camo..... Orly? I didnt look too closely but it looked like a solid plastic piece, like one of those masive dodge tow mirrors, just thicccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, akirby said: Big difference between an axle on a car you can’t see vs a full blown off road package. Its also not about whether the buyers use it or not - I doubt most Raptors go desert running - it’s about what people will pay for. And yes you can do that with IFS and it probably makes more sense to make it an aftermarket part, but I could see a business case for making it a unique model. Just depends on how hardcore they want to go. there was a release a while ago that our principle shared....there was mention of a Bronco AND Ranger PERFORMANCE models..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) This talk of aviator engines has reminded me that it would be awesome to have a fancy Lincoln bronco. . Since it seems to be accepted that ford and Lincoln will share architectures, I dont see a reason why Lincoln couldn't have a lux bronc. My guess is ford will wait to see how the regular bronco does, but are there any mystery Lincoln projects in the works that Could be such a vehicle? Edited January 17, 2020 by probowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 That didn't work out so well with the Blackwood, ask Clint Eastwood (Leo Sharp/Earl Stone). HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Probowler, I don't see a lux bronc as fitting in with Lincoln these days. They are now about style, a very American (and very luxurious) interior, and a "quiet flight" (though powerful) driving experience. Personally, I'd love to see the return of a hot rod Lincoln or a lux bronc style serious off-road capable SUV (think Range Rover Sport), but I don't expect them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, probowler said: This talk of aviator engines has reminded me that it would be awesome to have a fancy Lincoln bronco. . Since it seems to be accepted that ford and Lincoln will share architectures, I dont see a reason why Lincoln couldn't have a lux bronc. My guess is ford will wait to see how the regular bronco does, but are there any mystery Lincoln projects in the works that Could be such a vehicle? Hard no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, silvrsvt said: Well considering the A10 transmission is the Hybrid transmission, I don't see them being able to make a bigger motor to fit into it..then again we might be surprised. The big thing that we need to know is there going to be an upgrade from the 2.3L and the topend engine that will be in the Bronco R or Raptor or whatever they are calling it. I could personally live with 2.3L Hybrid as an upgrade over the base engine We've been reading about 2.3 standard, no 2.7, but having the Aviator's 3.0PHEV. I wonder if a second upgrade option could be hiding in plain sight - the 3.0EB itself (no hybrid)? 1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I am definitely interested in my next vehicle being a hybrid. Not quite ready to go full BEV yet but I could make it work as a commuter car. It will either be a Bronco or NG Ranger if it has a hybrid option Totally on board with you here. 53 minutes ago, probowler said: This talk of aviator engines has reminded me that it would be awesome to have a fancy Lincoln bronco. . Since it seems to be accepted that ford and Lincoln will share architectures, I dont see a reason why Lincoln couldn't have a lux bronc. My guess is ford will wait to see how the regular bronco does, but are there any mystery Lincoln projects in the works that Could be such a vehicle? I don't see that as necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351cid Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/16/2020 at 10:10 AM, akirby said: Of course! Both Explorer and Ranger were F100 trim levels in the 70s. I had a 1985 Ford F-150 Lariet Explorer that I bought new in October 1984. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Deanh said: there was a release a while ago that our principle shared....there was mention of a Bronco AND Ranger PERFORMANCE models..... Wasn’t there something in the UAW contract about a Bronco accessory area or words to that effect? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Bronco and NG Ranger as brothers under the skin, the frame design and power trains similar but different..... maybe whatever high series /HP engineering can be done once and shared...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Bronco and NG Ranger as brothers under the skin, the frame design and power trains similar but different..... maybe whatever high series /HP engineering can be done once and shared...... would not surprise me in the slightest if the reference pertains to a Raptor Ranger and a Hardcore Bronco...…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickp Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I am taking the 3.0 aviator powertrain mention on the Bronco forums with a few grains of salt. The one other thing is that I remember someone either in this thread or another one on here said that Jeep was going to “shit themselves” when they saw the Bronco powertrain options. The 3.0 hybrid would definitely do that. 2.7 not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, Nickp said: I am taking the 3.0 aviator powertrain mention on the Bronco forums with a few grains of salt. The one other thing is that I remember someone either in this thread or another one on here said that Jeep was going to “shit themselves” when they saw the Bronco powertrain options. The 3.0 hybrid would definitely do that. 2.7 not so much. oh Im not sure....2.7 in a 2 door with the 7 speed manual trans...Im all in...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Wasn’t there something in the UAW contract about a Bronco accessory area or words to that effect? Mod center, yes. It's under construction now. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, fuzzymoomoo said: Mod center, yes. It's under construction now. cant beat the buzz the Bronco is generating...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Nickp said: I am taking the 3.0 aviator powertrain mention on the Bronco forums with a few grains of salt. The one other thing is that I remember someone either in this thread or another one on here said that Jeep was going to “shit themselves” when they saw the Bronco powertrain options. The 3.0 hybrid would definitely do that. 2.7 not so much. So the 2.7 rated at say 325hp/380tq (at minimum) wouldn’t outclass any of the current Wrangler gas engine options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, Deanh said: oh Im not sure....2.7 in a 2 door with the 7 speed manual trans...Im all in...... I thought the rumor was the 7 speed was only with the 2.3EB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, 02MustangGT said: So the 2.7 rated at say 325hp/380tq (at minimum) wouldn’t outclass any of the current Wrangler gas engine options? In the F150 the 2.7 is 325/400. The Edge ST is 335/380. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickp Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, 02MustangGT said: So the 2.7 rated at say 325hp/380tq (at minimum) wouldn’t outclass any of the current Wrangler gas engine options? The new eco diesel has a decent amount less horsepower but a decent amount more torque. Who knows how the “butt dyno” would compare though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampede.Offroad Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 minute ago, MY93SHO said: I thought the rumor was the 7 speed was only with the 2.3EB. The MT88 is rated for 405lbft so it could handle the 2.7 or 3.0 V6 ecoboosts, or the 5.0 V8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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