jasonj80 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 GM sets goal of all electric light-duty vehicles by 2035, going carbon neutral by 2040 (fox2detroit.com) Gives a good blueprint of Ford's future timeline as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Because of these moves, you will be able to enjoy a clear day to see GM 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Pointing out the obvious, but still good marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, 7Mary3 said: Pointing out the obvious, but still good marketing. Thankfully for both GM and for society, GM's current marketing for electric vehicles is consistent and aligned to their corporate strategy. Definitely a refreshing change from the EV1 fiasco 20 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang let back Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 If FORD tries to go all electric with everything ,i dont think it will work out the way they think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackinaw Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 An attainable goal. I suspect that most manufacturers are planning the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, mustang let back said: If FORD tries to go all electric with everything ,i dont think it will work out the way they think. If Ford doesn't try to go 100% electric with their light duty vehicle lineup (maybe commercial vehicle too) , they won't exist by 2035. Edited January 28, 2021 by rperez817 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 If Ford isn’t 100% electric by 2035 it will be because that’s not what the market is demanding. MFRs that are able to balance ICE and EV production during this transition will be the big winners. There is too much money on the table to walk away from ICE too quickly. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Ford has always been keen on environmental issues...this will be no different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, rperez817 said: If Ford doesn't try to go 100% electric with their light duty vehicle lineup (maybe commercial vehicle too) , they won't exist by 2035. I don't know anyone (except a politician) who thinks that towing 6000 lbs of RV, through the San Raphael Swell with nothing ahead or behind you for a few hundred miles powered only by Chinese batteries is a good idea. Of course the long term Green New Deal means the Great American Road Trip is no longer possible. Edited January 28, 2021 by Kev-Mo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, mackinaw said: An attainable goal. I suspect that most manufacturers are planning the same. For sure attainable. And necessary to comply with all the regulations around the world. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) More 'engineering by press release'. From the same company that will have "at least 20 all-electric vehicles by 2023." Of course that promise was made in October of 2017, but is anyone keeping track? https://jalopnik.com/gm-joins-electric-revolution-and-plans-20-evs-by-2023-1819064357 Edited February 1, 2021 by Harley Lover 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang let back Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, rperez817 said: If Ford doesn't try to go 100% electric with their light duty vehicle lineup (maybe commercial vehicle too) , they won't exist by 2035. To me putting all of your eggs in one basket is beyond stupid.If the people dont want them and dont buy them,they will be screwed!!You cant sell what people dont want. Edited January 28, 2021 by mustang let back 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehaase Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, bzcat said: For sure attainable. And necessary to comply with all the regulations around the world. For sure nightmarish. I hope I'm dead by 2035. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang let back Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, ehaase said: For sure nightmarish. I hope I'm dead by 2035. Nightmarish for real.The tree huggers are out of control.Trust me you want to live driving a V8 mustang.I plan on still having my 2014 GT500,screw electric!! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, akirby said: If Ford isn’t 100% electric by 2035 it will be because that’s not what the market is demanding. MFRs that are able to balance ICE and EV production during this transition will be the big winners. There is too much money on the table to walk away from ICE too quickly. Although Ford will likely have the majority of it's vehicle line EV by then I could easily see them being one of the few remaining automakers to still provide some choice between EV and ICE depending on the market and application. It's a bit premature to make such a declaration at this point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danglin Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) The needed infrastructure is not to green to build. Can say the say the same about the cars to. Not only that, but, it is a pipe dream to think this can all be done by 2035!!! Edited January 29, 2021 by danglin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 The new GM corporate logo designed to look like an electric plug is pretty horrible though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, 2005Explorer said: The new GM corporate logo designed to look like an electric plug is pretty horrible though. "The new GM gm corporate logo designed to look like an electric plug is pretty horrible though." (There, fixed it for you...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 5 hours ago, mustang let back said: To me putting all of your eggs in one basket is beyond stupid.If the people dont want them and dont buy them,they will be screwed!!You cant sell what people dont want. When it comes to the automotive industry's future, there will be no other baskets to hold the eggs. Automakers will either prepare for and embrace a future that's 100% electric cars, or be turned into omelets and eaten. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbevo Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Does anybody really care what GM says? They're just arrogant A-holes pulling a publicity stunt. And talk about flip-flopping. They opposed California .... but once Biden was elected, here they are, the first to the trough to get in Biden's good graces for government money. Sound familiar? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Our shit media got it wrong again. gm did not say they were eliminating ECE engines per their press release. There is tech being developed that aims to make carbon free fuel and ECEs. https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2021/jan/0128-carbon.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, rperez817 said: When it comes to the automotive industry's future, there will be no other baskets to hold the eggs. Automakers will either prepare for and embrace a future that's 100% electric cars, or be turned into omelets and eaten. There are other ways to reduce/eliminate carbon other than the ev route. This reminds me of the late 1970s/early 80s when all cars were supposed to be diesel by the end of the 1980s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, Anbevo said: Does anybody really care what GM says? They're just arrogant A-holes pulling a publicity stunt. And talk about flip-flopping. They opposed California .... but once Biden was elected, here they are, the first to the trough to get in Biden's good graces for government money. Sound familiar? You think they would have waited at least a few months before kissing Emperor Biden's backside. At least don't be so obvious. We all know Barra is not the sharpest tool in the shed, but even she's not dumb enough to stop selling all those ECE pickups and SUVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Anbevo said: Does anybody really care what GM says? Yes sir. In the case of GM's Carbon Neutrality pledge, their customers, employees, and investors care. Governments in all markets where GM does business care too. And GM's competitors also care. Mary Barra was serious when she said "We encourage others to follow suit and make a significant impact on our industry and on the economy as a whole." This is no "publicity stunt". Carbon neutrality and the shift to 100% electric vehicles are key components of GM's long term business strategy. Edited January 29, 2021 by rperez817 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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