fordmantpw Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Ditto (shocking I know) You must be one of those law abiding citizens then too. Heck, we even let our insurance company put one of those devices that tracks speed, location, miles driven, lateral acceleration, etc. in each of our vehicles. Saved us something like 20% on our insurance. Funny thing is, our insurance agent did the same and his insurance stayed the same (it said he was an average driver) while his wife's went down 20% since she was a safe driver. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 We're in the age of information overload where people feel compelled to share more information about themselves and what they doing right now......opportunist criminals thrive on the unsuspecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I still stand by my thoughts that a Bronco program is not viable (nor practical for buyers) without a 4-door model. I know personally I wouldn't be interested in one unless 4-doors were available. And I'm not saying there isn't a 4 door option. All I'm saying is that the pictures and discussions were of the 2 Door production model and I have no info on a 4 Door option. I completely agree that they should have a 4 Door option if they really want to attempt to take some of the customer base from Jeep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 And I'm not saying there isn't a 4 door option. All I'm saying is that the pictures and discussions were of the 2 Door production model and I have no info on a 4 Door option. I completely agree that they should have a 4 Door option if they really want to attempt to take some of the customer base from Jeep. There is a 4 door option, and I have that on very good authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 You must be one of those law abiding citizens then too. Heck, we even let our insurance company put one of those devices that tracks speed, location, miles driven, lateral acceleration, etc. in each of our vehicles. Saved us something like 20% on our insurance. Funny thing is, our insurance agent did the same and his insurance stayed the same (it said he was an average driver) while his wife's went down 20% since she was a safe driver. :D LOL, I did the same thing with my insurance. I got 20 - 22% off my vehicles.. boy was I pissed when I had to slam on my brakes twice because of the A-hole in front of me not giving me warning... Would have been close to 30% off. Back to the Bronco lol.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 What's the word on a removable top? Wouldn't seem right without one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Wasn't there some talk a few months ago about a third product along with the Ranger and Bronco or is that my imagination? I could imagine a four door tophat that could compete with the 4Runner would make sense. It would certainly be somewhat in competition with the Expedition, but that same argument can be made for the Ranger vs. F Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Wasn't there some talk a few months ago about a third product along with the Ranger and Bronco or is that my imagination? Speculation is the 3rd product is a Raptor branded Ranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMoon Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Any idea whether Bronco will be available with a manual transmission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Speculation is the 3rd product is a Raptor branded Ranger. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Any idea whether Bronco will be available with a manual transmission? I seriously doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Do they still offer a manual on the Wrangler? That would be a decent indicator of whether offering a manual would be worthwhile. Being that it will be based on the global Ranger platform, I'm sure manual transmission capability is designed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 There is also a manual Toyota Prado overseas but doesn't mean we get one on 4Runner or Lexus GX here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 Do they still offer a manual on the Wrangler? That would be a decent indicator of whether offering a manual would be worthwhile. Being that it will be based on the global Ranger platform, I'm sure manual transmission capability is designed in. The real issue is additional costs for CAFE and Emissions...manual is an additional expense with low market share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Bronco is going to be a global vehicle. They're making a special point of that on the in-plant news marquee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Speculation is the 3rd product is a Raptor branded Ranger. I'd bet on a 2 door Bronco, a 4 door Bronco and Ranger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'd bet on a 2 door Bronco, a 4 door Bronco and Ranger. Why would they count a 2 and 4 door version of the same car a different model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Speculation is the 3rd product is a Raptor branded Ranger.Speculation? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Speculation? ?POT STIRRER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Why would they count a 2 and 4 door version of the same car a different model? Same with Focus or a ST. or Cmax and Cmax Energi and even BEV are all unique models we make at MAP. Not just a focus and Cmax. Old Explorer sport, Explorer and Explorer Sport Trac were all unique models also. Even if they were all Explorers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 POT STIRRER! If that is the only way I can get a 2.7EB and 10-speed auto I would be highly in favor of a Ranger Raptor or Raptor Ranger or whatever they decide to call it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniffen Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 If that is the only way I can get a 2.7EB and 10-speed auto I would be highly in favor of a Ranger Raptor or Raptor Ranger or whatever they decide to call it. I heard it's going to be called the Velociraptor ! (I know it's a hollywood made up creature with characteristics of other dinosaurs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I heard it's going to be called the Velociraptor ! (I know it's a hollywood made up creature with characteristics of other dinosaurs) Velociraptors were real, they just weren't as big (or, theoretically, featherless) as the Jurassic Park versions--but who's going to be terrified of dinosaurs the size of big turkeys? Aside from the residents of South Park, that is... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I heard it's going to be called the Velociraptor ! (I know it's a hollywood made up creature with characteristics of other dinosaurs) Didn't Hennessey already use that name on one their hopped up Raptors? Is it possible the third vehicle is simply the Everest for foreign markets? BTW, that same vehicle is called Endeavour in India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think a 4-door is a given, but a 2-Door is up for debate. I think a removable top is a must but the execution will be interesting. The main reason I want a Wrangler as my 'summer toy' is because it's a convertible. So if Ford can produce a more polished Wrangler that looks as bad-ass and iconic as a Wrangler (and not a box on roller-skates like the original Bronco), then I'll be thrilled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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