jpd80 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Asian / Australian Focus also had Powershift DCT but changed almost two years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Asian / Australian Focus also had Powershift DCT but changed almost two years ago. I thought Europe and ROW used the wet clutch version which doesn't have the same issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) I thought Europe and ROW used the wet clutch version which doesn't have the same issues. Only diesels, we had the 2.0 DI gasoline engine and dry clutch DCT until replaced by 1.5 EB and 6F auto. In the earlier days (2012), Europe never had an auto option on gasoline Focus, just the 1.6 EB and 6MT, diesels were far more popular there and they had the wet clutch powershift and MTs. Edited November 14, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 It ruined an otherwise very nice car. A new automatic transmission and a roomier back seat should put the Focus back on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Neither does making a huge investment. It all boils down to ROI. Also don't forget Focus is a world car not just North America. And I'm still not convinced they're showing the real new body without more camo. That is a fine line for sure but if they are stretching the wheelbase that means they are changing the bodywork-they need to push themselves more in this segment-my opinion. A lot of these buyers are first time and want something original and this hardly looks new. The new Civic is the benchmark for this class and also sold globally.....just wish they would take more chances. The other perspective is this car is more vital in China and maybe they prefer more conservative styling and then I'm wrong:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictor Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I know it popular but I find the new civic about as ugly as a car can get. The corrolla look better, and find most Toyota design distasteful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I know it popular but I find the new civic about as ugly as a car can getl. I like the stying, but hate it at the same time...so e of it works, some it is horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) It doesnt cost any more to bend sheet metal differently. Edited November 15, 2017 by Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) That is a fine line for sure but if they are stretching the wheelbase that means they are changing the bodywork-they need to push themselves more in this segment-my opinion. A lot of these buyers are first time and want something original and this hardly looks new. The new Civic is the benchmark for this class and also sold globally.....just wish they would take more chances. The other perspective is this car is more vital in China and maybe they prefer more conservative styling and then I'm wrong:) This is not just about North America, the new Focus is answering much of what Europe and ROW buyers are seeking. and the whole point in going "up market" is actually to include a "Vignale" version for Europe and maybe Platinum for USA. A Vignale Focus could also also opens the door for a Chinese based Lincoln Compact car, especially if it's a hybrid. Edited November 16, 2017 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley Lover Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 It's hard to see through the passenger window in the photo, but it looks like the interior *might* have a display on the middle of the dash ala Ecosport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 It's hard to see through the passenger window in the photo, but it looks like the interior *might* have a display on the middle of the dash ala Ecosport. Yeah, we've seen the interior: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Yeah, we've seen the interior: Really a CD Player?!?!? Why..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Really a CD Player?!?!? Why..... There was an article in this weeks Automotive News talking about changing interiors and what will be them a few years from now, etc. The CD player was mentioned and basically what it said is 50% of the people want to know that it is there, though something like 5% will ever use it. Plus by the time they simplify the order bank the cost of keeping it is easily justified-at least for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 There was an article in this weeks Automotive News talking about changing interiors and what will be them a few years from now, etc. The CD player was mentioned and basically what it said is 50% of the people want to know that it is there, though something like 5% will ever use it. Plus by the time they simplify the order bank the cost of keeping it is easily justified-at least for now. It wouldn't bother me if they dropped the CD player. I'd notice it wasn't there, but I've never used mine, so I wouldn't miss it. At least that would avoid massive bulges on the dash to accommodate it like in the Escape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 It wouldn't bother me if they dropped the CD player. I'd notice it wasn't there, but I've never used mine, so I wouldn't miss it. At least that would avoid massive bulges on the dash to accommodate it like in the Escape. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Yeah, we've seen the interior: Wonder what the deal is with the anti-auto focusing tape on the door panel...looks wierd I'm assuming we are going to see this dash setup on all Compact and Subcompact products from Ford. The EcoSport has it, the Fiesta has it and the Focus will have it also. I wonder if the Escape will too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Wouldn't surprise me if Escape used a similar setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 It wouldn't bother me if they dropped the CD player. I'd notice it wasn't there, but I've never used mine, so I wouldn't miss it. At least that would avoid massive bulges on the dash to accommodate it like in the Escape. I've never used the CD player in my F-150 (I don't even know if it works), but my mom uses the CD player in her new Flex. Its presence or absence wouldn't make a difference in the design of the center stack, and it's a cheap enough add, so there's no rush to drop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 There was an article in this weeks Automotive News talking about changing interiors and what will be them a few years from now, etc. The CD player was mentioned and basically what it said is 50% of the people want to know that it is there, though something like 5% will ever use it. Plus by the time they simplify the order bank the cost of keeping it is easily justified-at least for now. I saw that was very interesting, there was another one as well that they cost the OEM about $35 per unit to install. That $35 can be spent elsewhere. When you get into a Vehicle A and it has a nice dashboard and door panels, then get into a second vehicle and it has lower quality materials but a CD most people will look and say I really don't need that CD player look at this interior. It could also just be included for markets where they might still want CD's. I mean the EcoSport doesn't offer one and it is optional on the Navigator. Or Just make an external one that plugs into the USB, and the controls popup on the screen. The Sync3 system might actually already do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I do think there is an age factor (as Sooner noted). My parents are more likely to listen to a CD than their iPhone. I discovered the other day there is a CD (Christmas no less) in my Flex. I would bet it's been in there since 2010. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I will say that the existing Focus (at least the ones without touchscreens) have one of the most unobtrusive CD slots. I totally forget it is even there (and no, I've never used it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I've used the CD player in my F350 a few times, but only for audio books on our long trips. Since my free 6 months of Sirius/XM expired, it's mostly just FM. Actually, the radio is usually just off because I appreciate the quiet when the kids are watching their movies on their tablets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I have an Eagles CD in the MKX to test the Revel audio system. I think I’ve listened to one or two songs 3 or 4 times in almost 2 years. All my other CDs are in a box in storage. We both have our music on USB sticks and occasionally I’ll use my phone for new music I haven’t put on the usb stick yet. Mostly we listen to Sirius 70s and 80s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 80s on 8! We also like 90s on 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 80s on 8! We also like 90s on 9 Soultown or nothing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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