silvrsvt Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 https://www.thedrive.com/news/33386/the-ford-ranger-somehow-managed-a-123-percent-sales-increase-last-quarter well given how slow the rollout was this time last year.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I wonder what the inventory level is at right now. IIRC when we stopped production in March it was around 100 days of supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 7 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I wonder what the inventory level is at right now. IIRC when we stopped production in March it was around 100 days of supply. Figure on about 40% sales and I think they have enough inventory to get through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 hours ago, jpd80 said: Figure on about 40% sales and I think they have enough inventory to get through. I bet they do, I'm just curious about the numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 They had something like 30000 in inventory back in January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I think it is just a flawed comparison given how slow the initial roll out was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Same thing happened with Gladiator, 123 units sold in Q1 2019 vs 15,259 for Q1 2020 yet the journalist chose to down play that. Edited May 11, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 And this is why only comparing sales to the prior year is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 The bigger news is that the Ranger now has the same market share as the Chevy Colorado. That is something comparable. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I noticed that last year, Colorado seemed to drop back from 14k highs to around 10k while Ranger was riding the up elevator...... was that just a coincidence.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 What is more important for the Ranger is global sales. Even before it relaunched in the US and Canada, it was already the 2nd best selling small truck globally. With the next generation coming in a couple years, hopefully it can start to nip on the Hilux's heels a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ausrutherford said: What is more important for the Ranger is global sales. Even before it relaunched in the US and Canada, it was already the 2nd best selling small truck globally. With the next generation coming in a couple years, hopefully it can start to nip on the Hilux's heels a bit. True but Toyota doesn't sell Hilux in North America and Tacoma sales are not combined with Hilux. When you factor in Hilux and Tacoma together, Toyota still leads this segment by a significant margin on worldwide basis. But Ford has made up a lot of ground in the last 10 years or so, overtaking Isuzu, Nissan, and Mitsubishi, not to mention GM in the segment on worldwide basis. Topping Toyota will take a lot longer and Ford will probably need to make a big push to sell a lot more Ranger in China, Southeast Asia and Africa to pull it off. Edited May 12, 2020 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, bzcat said: True but Toyota doesn't sell Hilux in North America and Tacoma sales are not combined with Hilux. When you factor in Hilux and Tacoma together, Toyota still leads this segment by a significant margin on worldwide basis. But Ford has made up a lot of ground in the last 10 years or so, overtaking Isuzu, Nissan, and Mitsubishi, not to mention GM in the segment on worldwide basis. Topping Toyota will take a lot longer and Ford will probably need to make a big push to sell a lot more Ranger in China, Southeast Asia and Africa to pull it off. With North America leading the way on NG Ranger, it should be a massive improvement over the current one. If the manage to do that and keep pricing close to what it is now that sounds like a home run waiting to happen to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 26 minutes ago, bzcat said: True but Toyota doesn't sell Hilux in North America and Tacoma sales are not combined with Hilux. When you factor in Hilux and Tacoma together, Toyota still leads this segment by a significant margin on worldwide basis. But Ford has made up a lot of ground in the last 10 years or so, overtaking Isuzu, Nissan, and Mitsubishi, not to mention GM in the segment on worldwide basis. Topping Toyota will take a lot longer and Ford will probably need to make a big push to sell a lot more Ranger in China, Southeast Asia and Africa to pull it off. True, but as long as the Hilux and Tacoma are not the same vehicle, that is Toyota's fault. After all, no one combines the VW Golf and Jetta sales anymore. They are different vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) The big untapped market for Ford pickup trucks is China. Toyota doesn't sell Hilux in China while Ford with a low effort entry is already the #2 seller of pickup trucks there behind Great Wall. If Ford can somehow find a way to make Ranger in China (in addition to JMC Yuhu), I think it can really make headways on catching Hilux. Pickup truck sales in China grew significantly last year and it is one of the only light duty vehicle segment in China where a local company is the leading player - meaning there is lots of headroom for growth if Ford can figure out how to grow the market with the right product and strategy. 1. Great Wall (market share over 50%) 2. Jiangling Ford JMC 3. Jiangling Isuzu 4. JAC 5. Dongfeng Nissan 6. Foton 7. ZX Auto 8. SAIC Maxxus Edited May 12, 2020 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Did anyone do the break out chart for this months sales? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 hours ago, ANTAUS said: Did anyone do the break out chart for this months sales? Info for that has dried up, unfortunately. I've not been able to make the charts in a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/11/2020 at 6:33 PM, bzcat said: True but Toyota doesn't sell Hilux in North America and Tacoma sales are not combined with Hilux. When you factor in Hilux and Tacoma together, Toyota still leads this segment by a significant margin on worldwide basis. But Ford has made up a lot of ground in the last 10 years or so, overtaking Isuzu, Nissan, and Mitsubishi, not to mention GM in the segment on worldwide basis. Topping Toyota will take a lot longer and Ford will probably need to make a big push to sell a lot more Ranger in China, Southeast Asia and Africa to pull it off. I celebrate the day Ford and the Ranger top Tacoma in the USA. Other than that, the only thing we are rationalizing as success, is finishing second place to the Yankees every year, year after year after year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/11/2020 at 6:20 PM, jpd80 said: I noticed that last year, Colorado seemed to drop back from 14k highs to around 10k while Ranger was riding the up elevator...... was that just a coincidence.............. Looks are subjective, but dang the Ranger optioned right is a real looker. Add in the superior drivetrain and it looks like more prospective pickup buyers are giving it a serious look. The interior may be a bit mediocre and dated, but the rest of it merits serious consideration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/10/2020 at 6:46 AM, fuzzymoomoo said: I wonder what the inventory level is at right now. IIRC when we stopped production in March it was around 100 days of supply. My dealer still has 22 19's in inventory and 32 20's. No Lariats on the 20's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 12 hours ago, MKX1960 said: My dealer still has 22 19's in inventory and 32 20's. No Lariats on the 20's. My dealer says the incentives on the Ranger are not significant enough to drive sales right now. He suggested the drop off from the $6k incentive was too dramatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Chinese Everest also gets 2.3 EB Engine so engineering is there in the SUV but there’s no chance of it in the US.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: Chinese Everest also gets 2.3 EB Engine so engineering is there in the SUV but there’s no chance of it in the US.... That must be a fairly recent change. Previously Everest was only available with 2.0 EB and 2.2 TDCI in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, bzcat said: That must be a fairly recent change. Previously Everest was only available with 2.0 EB and 2.2 TDCI in China. Yep and weren't the Aussies ticked off about that 2.3 EB going into Everest, Everywhere else getting the a strong petrol engine while we're stuck with diesel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 1:00 AM, MKX1960 said: My dealer still has 22 19's in inventory and 32 20's. No Lariats on the 20's. iSeeCars analysis indicates that 41.9% of new Ford Rangers at U.S. dealerships are 2019 model year as of May 2020. That's the second highest percentage of any pickup truck model. Only Nissan Titan, which had a late introduction of the 2020 model, had a higher percentage of 2019s. https://www.iseecars.com/new-car-deals-study Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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