fuzzymoomoo Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 minute ago, bzcat said: American Ranger tailgate is also straight where the letters are stamped. Rest of the world Ranger tailgate has a concave curve where the stickers are applied. There's also that lip at the top above the latch. I never noticed there was such a difference between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I like the North America better. The rest of world tailgate looks kind of cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I do wish since they had gone through the trouble of redesigning the tailgate for NA that they had made it more like the F-150 (and by extension the Maverick). The styling by the R A N G E R lettering could be better ( ala F-150 ). It would have made it more in line with the "Ford truck family" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan7 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 https://fordauthority.com/2020/07/upcoming-ford-maverick-pickup-spied-testing-wearing-gobs-of-camouflage/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 It's bigger looking than I expected it to be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Now THAT looks like a Flex! And it looks way too big to be a Maverick even if there is extra camo on the rear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) The Transit Connect that the engineering modules are based on is roughly 72" wide with hip and shoulder room close to the current Ranger. Make no mistake, Maverick Pickup will definitely be a strong point of differentiation in a sea of vanilla utilities. I like what Ford is doing with the Maverick, it's filling an obvious gap left by the older Ranger while giving the new Ranger some licence to fill out it's proportions more and improve its interior roominess. I can see Ford starting to outflank GM and FCA / Stellantis here and adding to Bronco Sport without needing to use the Bronco brand ...very clever. Edited August 1, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, akirby said: Now THAT looks like a Flex! And it looks way too big to be a Maverick even if there is extra camo on the rear. Look at where the rear exhaust is... there is about 8 or 9" of extra camo after that to throw you off. I'm sure someone more handy with photoshop can superimpose Transit Connect LWB over this truck. I think the wheelbase looks about the same and I think Maverick will end up not much longer. Edited August 1, 2020 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 hours ago, rmc523 said: It's bigger looking than I expected it to be. If you look closely, you can see the left tail light behind the white. It's forward more than the camo. Hiding the true length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, 92merc said: If you look closely, you can see the left tail light behind the white. It's forward more than the camo. Hiding the true length. I think you are right. I’d guess the end of the truck is probably right where the white mesh for the taillights starts. it looks pretty good from what we can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I know it had extended camo - I was looking at the wheelbase which seemed a lot longer than I expected. But it does seem to match the TC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) Looks like it’s the 120” TC wheelbase, the back is obviously padded out to look longer but the real proportions should look pretty good. Edited August 1, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Has a longer front overhang than the Sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 38 minutes ago, ausrutherford said: Has a longer front overhang than the Sport. Does it? Think the camo is throwing it off a bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 9 hours ago, T-dubz said: it looks pretty good from what we can see. Yeah it does...looking forward to the end result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I’m just not seeing where this fits with such a tiny bed and 4 doors, I get that it’s unibody and cheaper than Ranger. I keep thinking a single cab with a 5.5‘-6’ bed like the old rangers would fit better. Or maybe that just old school thinking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, akirby said: I’m just not seeing where this fits with such a tiny bed and 4 doors, I get that it’s unibody and cheaper than Ranger. I keep thinking a single cab with a 5.5‘-6’ bed like the old rangers would fit better. Or maybe that just old school thinking. If you are using a truck for work or if you carry stuff often, a larger bed makes sense. But most people use trucks as daily drivers these days and rarely use the bed to its full potential. I’ve had several f150s and rangers over the years and most of the time the bed was either empty, or at the most half full, so for the majority of the time, a smaller bed would have been just fine. Also a 4ft bed still allows you to carry objects that won’t fit inside of an suv. Or carry things that you wouldn’t want inside your car, like mulch. It also makes the vehicle more likely to fit into a garage. If there is an off-road version, the shorter bed allows better departure angles. I really liked the last gen of the sport trac. This would be an ideal vehicle for me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 hours ago, silvrsvt said: Does it? Think the camo is throwing it off a bit It's not really that it's longer, it's that it's a different shape. The valence on the sport is angled towards the tires and the truck is more traditionally flat shaped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, akirby said: I’m just not seeing where this fits with such a tiny bed and 4 doors, I get that it’s unibody and cheaper than Ranger. I keep thinking a single cab with a 5.5‘-6’ bed like the old rangers would fit better. Or maybe that just old school thinking. My thinking is that the market these days at that price point is looking more for overall utility and is more likely to use it as a DD/family vehicle with a handy occasional bed than mostly a truck as someone else pointed out above. Which makes having 4 doors basically a necessity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 hours ago, akirby said: I’m just not seeing where this fits with such a tiny bed and 4 doors, I get that it’s unibody and cheaper than Ranger. I keep thinking a single cab with a 5.5‘-6’ bed like the old rangers would fit better. Or maybe that just old school thinking. I agree, I believe that there's a market for a lower-cost basic transportation vehicle like the old Ranger, but that doesn't fit with the position that many have that higher ATP's are the best approach for a healthy company. Consider this, selling 200K lower-cost vehicles that need oil changes, tires and maintenance over years of use may provide greater revenue than 50K vehicles with a higher 1-time profit. More vehicles mean more plants (assembly & suppliers) as well as more employee's, like Fuzzy. HRG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: Consider this, selling 200K lower-cost vehicles that need oil changes, tires and maintenance over years of use may provide greater revenue than 50K vehicles with a higher 1-time profit. Ford doesn’t make a nickel on any of those maintenance items. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: My thinking is that the market these days at that price point is looking more for overall utility and is more likely to use it as a DD/family vehicle with a handy occasional bed than mostly a truck as someone else pointed out above. Which makes having 4 doors basically a necessity. I think a utility with a closed back is more appealing than the open bed for the vast majority of those buyers though. Maybe I’m overthinking it. I’m sure there is a bigger ROW market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 i´m really waiting for this truck, my ecosport is small, escape (kuga)is expensive here, and the ranger is big. the territory is interesting, but unfortunately it´s not a Ford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, akirby said: I think a utility with a closed back is more appealing than the open bed for the vast majority of those buyers though. Maybe I’m overthinking it. I’m sure there is a bigger ROW market. I don't know, I'm just guessing - I'm assuming Ford has done a ton of market research that says there's a market for this vehicle. Either that or they're deathly afraid of missing out/being late to a new segment (like how they were late with Ranger). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT90SC Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, akirby said: Ford doesn’t make a nickel on any of those maintenance items. Corporate doesn't, but the dealers... wait... they make very little too. Fwiw, Akirby talking about it not making sense, during the school year (if we have one again) , I daily my Focus to drop kids off. Summer time, it is my 2WD regular cab shorty Ranger. If I had to get something to replace one, or both, I might consider this, if it is offered with the right powertrain. Edited August 1, 2020 by YT90SC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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