I think the "easy" way to do a Lincoln based on Bronco would be:
1) all new body panels and interior for a completely unique look
2) a jeep Skytop like setup where the shell is permanently in place (with additional sound deadening and interior panels to cover it all), with a retractable glass roof (fabric wouldn't work for a Lincoln)......the doors would probably no longer be removable as well, as you'd want additional sound deadening in them, meaning thicker, heavier doors.
The question would be whether you could get the quality needed for a Lincoln product, and "hide" the bones well enough.....I'd imagine it'd be difficult to restructure the roll cage in a more normal layout for a product like this, plus that'd add a lot of extra cost for something that would sell 1-2k per month, in line with other Lincoln models.
Yeah, I think there still are some "real" articles there, but you can tell the fake ones that all use the same format. Their clickbait article titles like "New model XYZ: 4 reasons to love it, 2 reasons to avoid" or "new model xyz: here's what you should look at instead" are stupid too.
Yeah, I can't understand why they have so many issues....I think part of it just the height of the windows (for the rattling issues when opening the door or going over bumps with it partially opened. But there are definitely some goofy things with the programming....I have to reset a window (often the passenger rear door, but sometimes the driver door) every few months because it forgets to do the drop feature and then closes improperly. I have a permanent tab open on my phone with the procedure to reset them.
You didn't understand his suggestion. He was suggesting instead of doing a ton of effort to completely redo Bronco to make it "Lincoln worthy" with a fixed roof, to just start with Everest as a starting point, since it's already fixed roof/a normal body structure.
It's nice to see that Ford is jumping on the bandwagon of using the camera for blindspot monitoring:
On a related note, I saw my first 2025 Expedition at lunch today and it looks good, but looks very tall/upright from behind with all styling elements being vertical and narrow. The random lights in the liftgate still look tacked on/unintegrated.
I'll stand corrected on 0-60 times, as I was thinking many products were lower than 8 seconds, but some are right around there....... I just feel that people have different expectations these days, especially when they hear EV, they think "fast". We'll see how it does, but I'm skeptical.
I didn't say I hate it.....I like the concept of it, I just think at $28,000 (remember, not everyone will qualify for the full $7,500 credit), it's priced high considering it has a fraction of the equipment of other cars. Maverick debuted at $29,995 and came with much more equipment than this does (yes, prices are higher now, but still).
I think this is getting a bit of rose-colored glasses treatment because it's "'Cheap' EV".
I pretty much only use my screen for CarPlay and google maps but even then I can’t imagine going from a 12” screen to phone and trying to look at the map.
id like to see ford incorporate some of what slate is doing though. The plastic body panels seem like they would be a good fit for off-road vehicles like bronco. If it breaks, just take it off and replace it with another. That has to be much cheaper than metal panels. Also the ease of adding parts is nice. Just need a screw driver. Imagine changing your grille or the color of your interior by just screwing some new parts on.
People are so different that I’m certain a stripped down truck like this Slate makes perfect sense to some and no sense at all to others.
Personally like ditching the infotainment screen completely for this type of vehicle. Since owner can have a phone or tablet with music, GPS, Internet, etc., is it that much of a sacrifice? It’s essentially taking a page from airlines, where screens at each seat were eliminated because passengers can now travel with personal entertainment.
The main challenge I see with following the KISS principle is that there is no real middle ground when seeking maximum affordability. Designing a vehicle capable of many features, to later decontent to save on cost, is not going to accomplish the same. A vehicle designed from the onset to be extremely utilitarian should not only save more on cost, but also on weight and other factors. Obviously that will limit pool of potential buyers, but those who want simplicity and low cost above all will appreciate this concept.
I think you're both missing the point. These are how 20-year olds, from outside the U.S., view a future Mustang. And notice how this design exercise was run by Ford's operations in Shanghai, not Dearborn. As the original Mustang-generation (me) fades into the sunset, the next generation will have their own ideas on how it should look. Some interesting ideas here.
Make this thing AWD and it could compete with many side by sides out there. Sure, it's a little bigger, but you can take it on the road as well. It would be an awesome tool for farmers / ranchers in place of a SxS.
It's a heck of a lot faster than the smaller trucks from the 80s and 90s this thing is clearly inspired by. A Chevy s-10, Ford ranger, or Nissan pickup did 0-60 in like 3-5 business days. That didn't stop people from slamming them, putting spoilers on them, and other sorts of cool street car builds.
It's all relative, 8 seconds is slow for a sports car, but halfway decent for a super cheap truck inspired by 80s trucks.
Stop trying to dunk on this thing, we aren't gonna agree. It's clear you don't like it, but I do. Small, cheerful, super customizable new cars are exactly the thing we need more of in modern society, I'm not gonna nit pick the one company that on paper just gave us what no-one else could.
People always ask for cheap, fun cars, but then want the range, performance, and build quality of a 50k car. You can't have both. As far as I'm concerned, we need more EVs like this and I'll applaud it all day long even if it's not perfect.
One major cost issue is going to the wrap for colors-on other products, like the Mustang for example, it is a $6K option just for a matte film over the paint. I've seen quotes for aftermarket wraps starting at $4K plus