silvrsvt Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 It's a bit of a reach...but interesting http://www.stangtv.com/news/strong-rumor-the-next-shelby-gt500-could-it-be-an-awd-ecoboost-v6/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Dammit, now I have to sell the house to buy one so I can get to work when it snows. No, really, it snows here in Oklahoma. I mean, some winters, it's really bad, and we get like two, maybe even three days before the sun melts it completely away, and I need to be able to get to work when those days don't fall during our end-of-year shutdown or on a weekend... Edited December 16, 2015 by SoonerLS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 This is guess, but could it be a possibility of a Lincolnstang. I mean lets be honest, Lincoln isn't going after the the V/M/AMG's like Caddy. The GT is a perfect GT so why don't you make it a Lincoln luxo gt with electric fwd assist (or conventional AWD). 3.0 and 3.5 2nd gen with 10 speed would be a thing. Just a thought. I am wondering how much cross team engineering happens between Ford Perfomance, Ford, and Lincoln. I mean, it would make sense to share info (what worked/what didn't and test results), right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang let back Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 i hope not a v6.that would defile the GT500 name.for something like that,they would need to call it something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 still thinkin 5.0 twin force....700hp 700 ft lbs...with that sort of power PERHAPS Ford deems AWD necessary..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 AWD Mustang will be really interesting twist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stentgraft95 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I can’t open the link for some reason. Anybody else have this issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 The other reason the hub has splines is they don't want to go through the cost/ hassle of making 2 hubs. GM already does this on the Lamda's and Equinox/ Terrain. All 4 hubs are the same part whether it's FWD or AWD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 The other reason the hub has splines is they don't want to go through the cost/ hassle of making 2 hubs. From what the article states, these are "Shebly" only items and not shared with the GT, Ecoboost or V6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Could it possibly be that the front hubs are the same as the rear hubs to save cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I wonder if the hubs are the same as the Focus RS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98GMLS Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I thought by now we would get some info on the next GT500, but since there's a lot of rumors about the drive train, and no official word from Ford. I think the article might be correct and the it may share the 3.5 EcoBoost with the GT supercar. AWD might be kind of kool with that much power. If the 3.5 EcoBoost can make over 600 hp, will Ford actually invest in an EcoBoost V8? Personally I'm for the V8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 From what the article states, these are "Shebly" only items and not shared with the GT, Ecoboost or V6 That's what the article says, but the also-quoted Ford engineer may have been saying that the hubs originally came from, or were derived from, the hubs on the old BOF Explorer. The revised hubs could have a part number that doesn't cross with the Explorer, but the splines could be carried over from the original parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 A supercharged V8 is off the shelf easy and can yield 700 hp and is probably cheaper than a 600 hp ecoboost 3.5L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe3w Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 How about 808HP http://www.mustang6g.com/?p=8075 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 That's what the article says, but the also-quoted Ford engineer may have been saying that the hubs originally came from, or were derived from, the hubs on the old BOF Explorer. The revised hubs could have a part number that doesn't cross with the Explorer, but the splines could be carried over from the original parts. but the BOF Explorer didn't have 15.5 inch rotors either...IMO it has to be a new design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) but the BOF Explorer didn't have 15.5 inch rotors either...IMO it has to be a new design. Hub != rotor. It doesn't necessarily need to be from the BOF Explorer, or even be the same part, it could just be based on the part from a vehicle with AWD (or even FWD)--i.e, the engineers may have started with the hub from an Explorer, so there are parts of the original design (like the splines) that get carried over, although the resulting part ends up carrying a different part number. I'll bet you find a lot of commonality in hubs across many different Ford products. Edited December 17, 2015 by SoonerLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 still thinkin 5.0 twin force....700hp 700 ft lbs...with that sort of power PERHAPS Ford deems AWD necessary..... Lessons from the Hellcat, which chirps tires on every upshift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 IMHO, if the firewall and front floor pan can be modified for AWD, it might be justifiable as the Mustang is competing with German 2-door coupes, which have AWD either standard or optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) One thought though, could this be a baked in future option once production settles down? They are jumping to a lot of conclusions by discovering those slpines on the front hubs. Providing the rest of the AWD set up sucks up a lot of R & D costs and if not baked in at the start of the project to be amortized by the 2.3 EB, I doubt it has any cred at all. I could see the 630 HP or a 450-500 HP TT V6 being a star model but GT500? I don't think so... Edited December 18, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Does anyone know if the stuff shown in this thread-&-Links could also be used for a thru-the-road Virtual-Awd system with only electrics to the front wheels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 another hmmmmm moment just came to me.....perhaps.....PERHAPS this AWD GT500 rumor gains traction ( pun not intended ) when paralleled with the constant Lincstang GRWD rumblings......... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94bronco Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 GT500 needs to be V8 and RWD, leave V6 and AWD for another version just don't use the GT500 name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 AWD.. if a sports car is to be taken seriously in Europe and soon in the USA.; Look for the current group of "sport cars" sold in the USA to offer AWD very soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Perhaps AWD is being held back as a later option to help the plant get up and running more quickly with less complication, a running change to coincide with gearbox upgrades? If Ford has a 10R box coming, it makes sense to make AWD available on both V8 and 1-4 EB engines available internationally in the domestic market. Edited December 21, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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