akirby Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just to be clear I was referring to Everest for ROW not US. Everest could be built at MAP and exported. I think there is a small market for Everest here in between Bronco and Explorer for folks who want comfort and off road capability, but it’s pretty small. The only good reason to do it here would be to fill out factory capacity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadicalX Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 "Aviator" is a very bad name. If it comes to Brazil one day, they'd have to change the name. The connotation is like "queer" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 "Aviator" is a very bad name. If it comes to Brazil one day, they'd have to change the name. The connotation is like "queer" Very strange. In English is just means "pilot". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 "Aviator" is a very bad name. If it comes to Brazil one day, they'd have to change the name. The connotation is like "queer" I guess its just like Quebec in Canada where Lacrosse is slang of masturbation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 AFAIK: Everest Raptor? Yes. Bronco Raptor? Yes. Expedition Raptor? Ehhh... Explorer Raptor? No. Firm. I would trade my F150 Raptor in on an Expedition Raptor today if it were available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 "Aviator" is a very bad name. If it comes to Brazil one day, they'd have to change the name. The connotation is like "queer" Really? That's a new one on me, good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadicalX Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Really? That's a new one on me, good to know. Unfortunately, yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I could see the Everest Raptor as a natural progression of the Global diesel Ranger Raptor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I see plenty of room for that Everest (better name please) here in the USA to take on 4Runner and Jeep brand SUVs. Especially since there will be very little development necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I see plenty of room for that Everest (better name please) here in the USA to take on 4Runner and Jeep brand SUVs. Especially since there will be very little development necessary. I agree, I think it would be great to make it available. However, if we get a 4-door Bronco, it may be redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I agree, I think it would be great to make it available. However, if we get a 4-door Bronco, it may be redundant. A 2 and a 4-door bronco is all you need...but if the bronco going to be a targeted wrangler competitor, there might be room for Everest. But at the same time... if they do make the bronco a "Comfy Wrangler".... that again makes the Everest sound unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 A 2 and a 4-door bronco is all you need...but if the bronco going to be a targeted wrangler competitor, there might be room for Everest. But at the same time... if they do make the bronco a "Comfy Wrangler".... that again makes the Everest sound unnecessary. If the Bronco is a true hard-core off-roader, then there would be room for an Everest between Explorer in Bronco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 A 2 and a 4-door bronco is all you need...but if the bronco going to be a targeted wrangler competitor, there might be room for Everest. But at the same time... if they do make the bronco a "Comfy Wrangler".... that again makes the Everest sound unnecessary. I dont think the Bronco buyer and the Everest buyer are the same people. I think there is room for the Everest as long as the Bronco can go open top. If it cant, then Everest would be redundant. If it can help with factory utilization, and they wont lose money on them, why not. More options for customers. Regarding the Everest name, I dont mind it and it already has some recognition. I dont get peoples dislike for the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I dont think the Bronco buyer and the Everest buyer are the same people. I think there is room for the Everest as long as the Bronco can go open top. If it cant, then Everest would be redundant. If it can help with factory utilization, and they wont lose money on them, why not. More options for customers... :thumb: ...Regarding the Everest name, I dont mind it and it already has some recognition. I dont get peoples dislike for the name. because it's THERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 While there is probably a good case for having all three - Ranger, Everest and Bronco in North America the feeling is that Bronco is a North America only vehicle (LHD only) and Everest will remain ROW. If true, I think that's a shame because there's room for both chunky and smooth styled vehicle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I dont think the Bronco buyer and the Everest buyer are the same people. I think there is room for the Everest as long as the Bronco can go open top. If it cant, then Everest would be redundant. If it can help with factory utilization, and they wont lose money on them, why not. More options for customers. Regarding the Everest name, I dont mind it and it already has some recognition. I dont get peoples dislike for the name. for one Everest seats 7 and Bronco probably seats 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 While there is probably a good case for having all three - Ranger, Everest and Bronco in North America the feeling is that Bronco is a North America only vehicle (LHD only) and Everest will remain ROW. If true, I think that's a shame because there's room for both chunky and smooth styled vehicle. Bronco is going global, they said that when they announced its return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 "Aviator" is a very bad name. If it comes to Brazil one day, they'd have to change the name. The connotation is like "queer" Well, they can just use the nameplate MKT in Brazil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) Ford has said that Bronco is a global product intended for sale outside US. Although no mention of RHD, I would assume that it is part of the program. After all, Ranger and Everest are LHD / RHD so no reason to think Bronco will be different. Ford can definitely sell Bronco and Everest side by side in any market where it makes sense... after all, one is going to be 5 seats and the other has 7 seats. Toyota sells Fortuner and 4Runner or Fortuner and Prado (and in a few places, all three) side by side in most places. Edited February 16, 2018 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Ford has said that Bronco is a global product intended for sale outside US. Although no mention of RHD, I would assume that it is part of the program. After all, Ranger and Everest are LHD / RHD so no reason to think Bronco will be different. Ford can definitely sell Bronco and Everest side by side in any market where it makes sense... after all, one is going to be 5 seats and the other has 7 seats. Toyota sells Fortuner and 4Runner or Fortuner and Prado (and in a few places, all three) side by side in most places. Thats the point I was trying to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jniffen Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 AFAIK: Everest Raptor? Yes. Bronco Raptor? Yes. Expedition Raptor? Ehhh... Explorer Raptor? No. Firm. And you get a Raptor! And you get a Raptor! And you get a Raptor! And you get a Raptor! And you get a Raptor! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I think only pickups should be Raptors and another performance name should be used for SUC/CUVs. Maybe... Maverick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2b2 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) I wonder if anyone at Fomoco gave ANY thought to the possibility of additional/future Raptor-ish models when they chose that name for their special F-150? Edited February 22, 2018 by 2b2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I think only pickups should be Raptors and another performance name should be used for SUC/CUVs. Maybe... Maverick? But Raptor is not a truck modification. Its the transformation of a vehicle into a desert runner, so therefore it can be applied to suvs too, at least thats the current use of the name. Ill agree that it cant be plastered on every model, though. And I believe it would only be appropriate on certain SUVs....such as Bronco and Everest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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