MY93SHO Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 9 hours ago, T-dubz said: I love the short bed on a single cab. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Deanh said: that 2.7 may be the best overall engine in Fords lineup...and Im fine with it...with the seven speed manual..yehah! Even better if it’s the 3.0 EB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, jpd80 said: Even better if it’s the 3.0 EB Id save that one for the "R"....even the 2.7 is plenty... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Deanh said: Id save that one for the "R"....even the 2.7 is plenty... What if there is no 2.7..... they’re borrowed from Hesplorer not F150 Edited February 26, 2020 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Just now, jpd80 said: What if there is no 2.7..... always that possibility as well...I just want them to keep costs in check...as we have seen, the higher the cost of a vehicle the smaller the potential market.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Deanh said: always that possibility as well...I just want them to keep costs in check...as we have seen, the higher the cost of a vehicle the smaller the potential market.... Technically the 3.0 doesn’t cost more than the 2.7 to produce, it may be easier to group the non-F150 engines together and leave 2.7 production alone. I could be wrong with this but we might see 3.0 EB with two power levels as better differentiation to the 2.3 than the 2.7 would give, better optics on power levels? Edited February 26, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, T-dubz said: Are those gauges on the dash above the touchscreen? Maybe buttons? Hard to tell. The one on the far right looks like it might be a gauge, but the rest of them look like they're status indicators for various things (traction control off, hazard lights, passenger airbag disabled, drive mode, etc). It is difficult to tell, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 57 minutes ago, SoonerLS said: The one on the far right looks like it might be a gauge, but the rest of them look like they're status indicators for various things (traction control off, hazard lights, passenger airbag disabled, drive mode, etc). It is difficult to tell, though. From Bronco6G 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, jpd80 said: Technically the 3.0 doesn’t cost more than the 2.7 to produce, it may be easier to group the non-F150 engines together and leave 2.7 production alone. Don’t forget Edge and Nautilus also use the 2.7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Aux switches for days! Bunch more photos at the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 5:10 PM, Willwll313wll said: I think he's hoping for a "trick" swing gate and tail gate. Like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willwll313wll Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, MKX1960 said: Like this Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooter Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I thought we hated single cabs?...was told they will hever sell... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 hours ago, snooter said: I thought we hated single cabs?...was told they will hever sell... Relax, it's just another mall cruiser 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 This might be old news, but I talked to a friend of a friend last night who is in middle management at Ford. He said the Bronco Sport will launch this year and the Bronco will not launch until 2021 making it a 2022MY vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valve Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, theoldwizard said: This might be old news, but I talked to a friend of a friend last night who is in middle management at Ford. He said the Bronco Sport will launch this year and the Bronco will not launch until 2021 making it a 2022MY vehicle. I believe that it's already been confirmed here that they will both launch this year with the Bronco Sport being this fall and Bronco being end of year. The Bronco will still be a 2021 MY vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, theoldwizard said: This might be old news, but I talked to a friend of a friend last night who is in middle management at Ford. He said the Bronco Sport will launch this year and the Bronco will not launch until 2021 making it a 2022MY vehicle. Job 1 for T6 Bronco is in early December and by the time OK to buy comes through it will be January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 I'm assuming the Bronco Sport Job 1 will be in August or so-I believe the Fusion and MKZ balance out in May or so this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 22 hours ago, jpd80 said: It makes more sense for Bronco to use existing engine gearbox set ups rather than funding new variations and if there is the base 2.3 EB, it makes little sense to use a 2.7 EB when the 3.0 EB is now available. The Explorer precedent would point in the direction of Ford skipping 2.7 EB and going with 3.0 EB. But maybe they are saving 3.0 EB for Bronco Raptor? We'll find out soon enough. Also, drivetrain decision for Bronco won't be made in a vacuum without F-150. We don't know yet what is the future of 2.7 EB in F-150. Does Ford keep it so it doesn't completely overshadow the 5.0 V8? Or does Ford upgrade F-150 to 3.0 EB knowing 5.0 will be hybrid with more power? Until we learn more about what engine options next gen F-150 will have, it's a bit premature to speculate on Bronco (or Mustang for that matter). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, bzcat said: The Explorer precedent would point in the direction of Ford skipping 2.7 EB and going with 3.0 EB. But maybe they are saving 3.0 EB for Bronco Raptor? We'll find out soon enough. Also, drivetrain decision for Bronco won't be made in a vacuum without F-150. We don't know yet what is the future of 2.7 EB in F-150. Does Ford keep it so it doesn't completely overshadow the 5.0 V8? Or does Ford upgrade F-150 to 3.0 EB knowing 5.0 will be hybrid with more power? Until we learn more about what engine options next gen F-150 will have, it's a bit premature to speculate on Bronco (or Mustang for that matter). Logically, Ford wouldn't put a 2.3 EB and a 2.7 EB next to each other in the same product, perceived difference is also important. Lincoln also shows us that the 3.0 TTV6 can be supplied with two power levels, maybe this is a possible succession plan away from producing two different capacities.....just a thought. Edited February 26, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Would not surprise me to see 2.7L go transverse only and 3.0EB longitudinal only. It's hard to compare directly but the 3.0LEB might be just as fuel efficient as the 2.7L in most applications. If so there is no need for both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Damn, another mall cruiser. No SFA. https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g31115452/2020-brabus-800-adventure-xlp-photos-info-gallery/?slide=3 HRG 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bzcat Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, akirby said: Would not surprise me to see 2.7L go transverse only and 3.0EB longitudinal only. It's hard to compare directly but the 3.0LEB might be just as fuel efficient as the 2.7L in most applications. If so there is no need for both. Well, Edge and Nautilus are the only vehicles using 2.7 EB transverse and I don't see any other likely candidate. From an investment standpoint, I would assume Edge and Nautilus won't be able to justify any unique engines. The current 2.7 transverse will stay as long as Ford needs it to stay for Edge, but I suspect you can just de-tune the 3.0 EB in F-150 to reach whatever fuel economy target you want to hit. Lots of car companies do the same. Edited February 26, 2020 by bzcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 8 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said: Damn, another mall cruiser. No SFA. https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g31115452/2020-brabus-800-adventure-xlp-photos-info-gallery/?slide=3 HRG What is Brabus? I recently saw a mercedes but it was rebranded Brabus, nice car but the badging was bizarre. Is this a Shelby type deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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