T-dubz Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 I haven’t paid attention to Nissan much, so I guess I didn’t realize things were getting that bad for them. I’ve never driven a Nissan, so can’t comment on that, but I like the new kicks, the frontier seems solid, and the Rogue seems to be as good as any other compact suv. I also like the Armanda redesign. Besides those, everything else is pretty bad. Although it seems like speculation, it might be cool if Honda did take over and get things going in the right direction. https://www.motor1.com/news/742467/nissan-12-to-14-months-left-to-survive/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Kinda suprised Hyundai / Kia isn't looking into it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 It would probably be too risky for Honda to pour perfectly good money into a bad company that would take too long to turn around. The only thing they could get as far as new market segments would be a truck based pickups and SUVs, but Nissan is canceling the Titian. If I were Honda, I'd probably not answer any phone calls when Nissan's exec's phone numbers show up on my caller ID. Of course a Nissan liquidation would probably spell the end of Mitsubishi in North America as well as their Japan lineup would have little appeal to Americans and the cars we do get are based on Nissan platforms which would probably die at the end of their lifecycle. Honda may want to buy out Nissan's share of the joint ventures they were both developing, or I could see maybe Honda (or even Hyundai/Kia) buying Nissan's USA plants to build product here to avoid the new tariffs if Nissan hangs it up in the USA. Nissan may want to consider chapter 11 of its Nissan of North America to maybe cull dealerships and dump Infiniti as a part of reorganizing if they choose to stay here. Nissan is just going to have to reorganize through bankruptcy. I don't know what Japanese laws offer, but maybe the can negotiate their way out with creditors in return for shares in a future healthy Nissan. They do have new product planned, but need a bit more time than 12-14 months to see if it will be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNSLS Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 (edited) Nissan's biggest problem (IMHO) is it dealer network. All manufacturers have certain dealers who are known on the Internet as the "bad boys". Nissan dealers come up pretty frequently. What ever happens-who ever ends up with Nissan will not be getting a full size pickup-as everyone knows the (outdated) Titan has been discontinued. Edited December 1 by CKNSLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehaase Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 Nissan's biggest problem is the poor reputation of the reliability of its CVT transmission used on FWD cars and crossovers. Nissan lacks the reliability reputation of Toyota and Honda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNSLS Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 17 hours ago, ehaase said: Nissan's biggest problem is the poor reputation of the reliability of its CVT transmission used on FWD cars and crossovers. Nissan lacks the reliability reputation of Toyota and Honda. But yet I read that the Rogue is the third best selling vehicle in it's class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 2 hours ago, CKNSLS said: But yet I read that the Rogue is the third best selling vehicle in it's class. Because they’re cheaper. Thats the Nissan formula. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dequindre Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 22 hours ago, ehaase said: Nissan's biggest problem is the poor reputation of the reliability of its CVT transmission used on FWD cars and crossovers. Nissan lacks the reliability reputation of Toyota and Honda. They put a real transmission in the Pathfinder, which is a nice change of pace. Hopefully it's the first of many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKNSLS Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 4 hours ago, Dequindre said: They put a real transmission in the Pathfinder, which is a nice change of pace. Hopefully it's the first of many. Yes-but I have already read where a Pathfinder was on a buyers short list and is now reconsidering because of the financial state of the company. I was going to buy a new Kizashi Suzuki sedan several years ago. Then News reports surfaced about how they might leave the U.S. I told this to a sales manger who called me up looking to "close the deal" on one I had looked at previously. He said no way that was going to happen. No less than two weeks later the announcement was made they were leaving the U.S. Bought a Subaru-which proved later perhaps wasn't the best decision either- but that's another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 On 12/1/2024 at 5:52 PM, akirby said: Because they’re cheaper. Thats the Nissan formula. It's interesting how often a Nissan Altima is the offending vehicle in various car crash compilation videos on Youtube. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 29 minutes ago, grbeck said: It's interesting how often a Nissan Altima is the offending vehicle in various car crash compilation videos on Youtube. There are a couple meme pages covering that car on various social media too I gave my nephew a hard time when he got one to replace his first car (he which crashed like a dumbass) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted Monday at 02:18 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:18 AM If Honda does buy Nissan what happens to Acura and Infiniti I can't see them keeping both brands. There would be a lot of overlap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted Monday at 12:16 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:16 PM 9 hours ago, Andrew L said: If Honda does buy Nissan what happens to Acura and Infiniti I can't see them keeping both brands. There would be a lot of overlap. The new Acura "Infiniti Edition" ...coming soon to an Auto Mall near you. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTEcoBoost Posted Monday at 01:07 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:07 PM Honda will NOT buy Nissan. That'd be a monumental task with little payoff for Honda. I feel bad for Mitsubishi though; it can't catch a break. Now THAT might interest Honda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTEcoBoost Posted Monday at 01:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:09 PM On 12/1/2024 at 5:52 PM, akirby said: Because they’re cheaper. Thats the Nissan formula. Not any longer. Ever since Carlos Ghosn left, Nissans have been incrementally rising in prices. The Rogue is now as pricey as a RAV4, comparably equipped. It has had MAJOR issues with the 3-cylinder introed for the '22 model year and I am not convinced those issues are fixed yet. Its CVTs are for the most part, not an issue any longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted Monday at 01:26 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:26 PM 16 minutes ago, CLTEcoBoost said: Honda will NOT buy Nissan. That'd be a monumental task with little payoff for Honda. I feel bad for Mitsubishi though; it can't catch a break. Now THAT might interest Honda. I don’t see how Honda would benefit from either Nissan or Mitsubishi. Would seem like a better target for BYD or another Chinese brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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