Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I feel the detailing on the Ypsilon is terrible. The green Peugeot is by far the best of the bunch, IMO....(except those ugly wheels lol). The Opel is next with the Citroen and Ypsilon are tied for a distant third.
I've always preferred cleaner designs.....they look more elegant to me - adding a ton of trim, extra shapes, etc. tells me they're overstyling it and that the base design wasn't good enough, so they tack on "look at me" elements to overcome it.
Hopefully they do a quick turnaround between the debut and on-sale dates instead of the usual long drawn out waiting period. I've never understood why they debut something and wait a year to put it on sale, killing the initial excitement of the new model's debut.
These, especially the green hatch, are great examples of the sort of styling direction Ford should strive for with their future affordable compact EVs. Sharp, eye catching, but not over styled.
I had a 75 Pinto Wagon for my college years. It was reliable for me also but also had rust holes in body. Lots of good memories. My friend had a Chevy Vega and the Pinto was far superior.
The overall shape is good for the segment. The details put it above all in the segment. Here some pics of the Stellantis B segment siblings…
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Yea, the theme in the thread is that Ford hasn't produced a sedan that's aspirational or desirable for over 30 years. To your point, trucks and SUV is where Ford is the best. A few Ford coupes and hatchbacks, especially the racing oriented Mustangs, are also desirable.
The Ford CEO said he wants to invest in growing segments, and implied that Ford isn't going to repeat past mistakes.
Exactly, but that's why you give manufactures the choice. Hypercar and gt3 could stay as they were, which would keep the investments for racing in those series rather low as you stated. Who's to say just like with production cars, companies couldn't develop a competitive chassis, or powertrain together to reduce their individual costs, but develop certain things on their own to add diversity to the competition?
Yup, that's been my point as well - the Navigator/Expy's rear cargo area is already long/massive (especially in the Max/L versions), this setup will only put you farther away from items at the front of the cargo area. Like I mentioned above, I do remember some patents for some sort of moving cargo floor to bring items outward - maybe we'll see some sort of trick setup to counteract this issue.
Lol. Not sure what F250 has to do with anything.
I just don't consider a design with a mish-mash of styling cues that don't relate to one another elegant.
The black on the hood edge looks like a hood wind deflector, the bizarre unnecessary rectangles by the license plate, squared off rear design elements on an otherwise curvy vehicle, stuck on round taillight pods, etc.
The body shape overall isn't bad for the segment, but I just don't like the detailing.....maybe it looks better in person?